Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Prop 8 Repeal Petitions Available

At least one group has went ahead and had their initiative to repeal Prop 8 approved by the Secretary of State. This, after what I'd thought was the consensus of most Prop 8 opponents, that it was too early to work for a repeal of the law. I felt the same way myself but, with the effort being made, I suppose I'll go ahead and see if I can get a few signatures.

The petitions are available in .pdf format on the Sign For Equality web site. I like it when they make the petitions available to be printed out on standard 8 1/2 x 11 paper. They may not hold as many signatures as those on legal size paper but they're easier to print and more likely to be filled out and sent in.

Printing is a little problematic for me right now. I finally went and bought a few legal size (8 1/2 x 14) sheets of paper about a week ago to print out some of those petitions for the decriminalization of marijuana only to find out my printer was out of ink.

It's kind of an iffy proposition to buy another ink cartridge for this old Canon printer as the mechanism that holds the cartridge in place often falls apart when you try to install a new cartridge and it can be difficult to put it back together. If we can't put it back together, the money spent on the cartridge will be wasted.

We need a new printer but can't really afford it. Maybe I'll go ahead and take a chance on buying a new ink cartridge for this old one so I can get these petitions printed out.



At 7:53 AM, Blogger Carol said...

I would be happy to print some out today and mail some to you, Fred. You can send me your mailing address through Facebook.

At 7:57 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Thanks. Let me try a new cartridge first. If the locking mechanism falls apart and we can't get it back together again, I'll let you know.

Last time I bought a cartridge it was around $25 for a black only. Don't really want to take the chance on $25 but, if we can install the cartridge, we can use the printer for another year or two until the cartridge runs out.

At 8:01 AM, Blogger Carol said...

I am printing some out this morning and will have them ready to go. I can mail them from the office this morning.

At 11:01 AM, Anonymous Jeffrey Taylor said...

Hi Fred – 

I just wanted to thank you and your commenters for your support, and let you know what's been going on with a 2010 repeal of Proposition 8.

There has been disagreement between the larger, more established orgs and the grassroots orgs about the best time to go to the ballot again. A coalition of grassroots groups, Restore Equality 2010, is going ahead with the effort. One of our coalition members, the fantastic LA marriage equality org Love Honor Cherish, has filed the ballot language and created a firs of its kind social netowrking site for the signature gathering effort at http://signforequality.com .

I know you may have questions about out grassroots effort, so please feel free to email me at jeffrey at restoreequality2010.com , and I'll be happy to answer them.

Thanks again,

Jeffrey Taylor
Spokesman, Restore Equality 2010

At 11:55 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Thanks for stopping by, Jeff. No thanks necessary. I'm here to help.

I am one of those that thinks it would be better to wait a while before doing another initiative on this issue. Seems to me back to back initiative efforts usually lose, sometimes big time.

I'm reminded of the effort to repeal that tobacco tax increase, Prop 10, from some years ago. That prop barely passed, but when a repeal was tried the next time around, the repeal lost big time.

Still, since this petitioning effort has begun, if it ends up losing, I'd rather see it lose at the ballot box than lose by failing to get enough signatures to get it on the ballot.

Besides, doing stuff like this can be fun since some folks will start telling me what a left- winger I am. Then, next time I circulate petitions on other issues like repealing the Assault Weapons Ban, or the latest tobacco tax, I can have a bunch of other people calling me a right- winger. Doesn't get any better than that!

At 2:39 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Ok. Broke down and bought a Hewlett- Packard printer/copier/scanner at Staples for less than $100.00. Long story, but I finally got it to print out my first petition. One downside is I don't think it will print to legal size paper so I can't do the marijuana decrim petitions on it. I'll have to check further.

Not a bad deal. Connie wanted me to get a Kodak printer that was on sale at Kmart for around $100.00. A replacement cartridge for our old Canon printer was $27.00. Then I noticed the HP printer for $47.00. Cartidges seemed inexpensive, too, with a B&W cartridge going for $16.00.

The other downside is this doesn't use a conventional printer port. It used a USB connection and I think I might only have 2 working USB ports on this computer. Unbeknownst to me, the USB cable didn't come with the printer so I had to drive back to Staples and buy one at around $22.00. Still, came out of it for under $100.00 and that included the extra B&W cartridge I bought.

And it turned out to be a good idea not buying the cartridge for the old Canon printer. I tried taking the old cartridge out before I hooked up the new printer. The cartridge locking mechanism fell apart as we expected it would.

At 4:01 PM, Anonymous Mr. Nice said...

I'll take a wild guess. You bought the HP DJ F4235 which uses the HP 60 black cartridge.

The scanner is limited to 8.5x11 copies but the feeder will take 8.5x11, 8.5x14, 8.5x21, and 8.5x30 (panorama aspect) paper.

I find it amusing that printers these days are just as consumable as their ink cartridges.

At 5:47 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Actually, a HP DJ 4280. Probably the same sort of thing. Hey, it works.

At 7:26 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Oh, just reread your comment. Yep, this uses the HP60 cartridge. And glad to hear that it will print on legal size paper. I was going to look into that but I'll take your word for it and try printing a pot petition this morning.


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