Appeal To The Center?
Bonnie Neely's latest mailer certainly doesn't seem to.
We've seen on this blog that there's an awful big split along Left/ Right lines here in local politics. Still, I thought that was just because most people that have more than just a casual interest in politics will usually fall pretty much in either the Left or Right wing camps. Not everyone, just most.
Still, I was surprised to see Bonnie Neely sending out a mailing which could only be described- at least from what the paper makes it sound like- as pretty hard to the Left. It looks like she's using a slightly cooled off version of the Cobb/ Pickering commentaries we've seen of late.
I find it somewhat bothersome that someone like Neely, whom I would have assumed would be going after the independent voters, would think a hard left campaign message would appeal to Joe and Jill Sixpack. Sure, I know she feels her main constituency is the the Left and hard Left, but it seems to me the common wisdom in politics is, or used to be, to appeal to the middle of the road folks.
Does she, or her campaign staff, know something I don't? Has the Fourth District really turned so hard Left an anti- business message like the one she sent out would hit home with Joe and Jill Sixpack? I hope not.
I think it more likely this was simply something in the mind of her campaign team of Kerrigan/ Salzman. Most likely the latter. Only time will tell whether it helps or hurts her.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 12:47 PM
103 comments
103 Comments:
there goes the union endorsements, gee Neely---just piss off all the business owners and developers who are trying to make this County a better place to live. Bonnie's idea is to just sit and wait for Bonnie to do something--her quote in the article is-- 'the County's future will be determined in the next few years".
heck, how long have we been waiting now---20 years and counting!!! so, what happens to Joe and Jill sixpack in the meantime??
As John Dean points out in his recent book "Conservatives Without Conscience", the right wing has become so extreme that even he, a Goldwater Republican and White House lawyer for Nixon, feels he is now "left of center". Bonnie Neely has not moved leftward as much as the right-wing has become more and more extreme, creating a greater contrast between moderates like Neely and their own brand of authoritarian, corporate Republicanism. I highly recommend both Dean's book and Bonnie Neely.
Well, this is crunch time. A lot of campaigns figure that they've expanded the pie about as far as it's going to go, and now have to shore up the base for turnout.
But who knows how thought out any of it is. Politics is mostly guesswork anyway.
Come on everyone. Bonnie is going for the majority of the left leaning voters, which is mostly registered Democrats. No secret.
So the last 20 years wasn't enough to do the job? Name me all the good things she has lead again? How much do those small businesses pay that used the Headwaters funds that were supposed to help the economy replace jobs that paid $40,000 and more a year?
Keep saving us from those oil rigs Bonnie! What Rethoric. I think I'll run for that position it makes me so mad.
Doh! That's right I did. Damn. How did a moderate progressive Democrat lose to her anyways? Man I must have been a rotten candidate!
Bonnie says whatever she has to to get re-elected.
Politics is mostly guesswork anyway.
Scary but true.
A moderate progressive Democrat in favor of oil rigs? I don't think so.
"developers who are trying to make this County a better place to live."
Not everyone is on board with that statement.
"How much do those small businesses pay that used the Headwaters funds that were supposed to help the economy replace jobs that paid $40,000 and more a year?"
And how many of those $40,000 jobs would be left after Headwaters was clearcut and shipped out?
Right On, Mary. This is how many of us are feeling about Bonnie Neely.
Maybe Bonnie just can't stand Mary. Bonnie is human after all and there is a point where you need to filter.
(sorry Mary. I don't know you.... just a perspective.)
I've called Bonnie and she's called me. Always polite and quite helpful.
Developers are a different breed than contractors.
anyone who subdivides a piece of property is branded a developer, anyone who tries to create anything or prosper is branded evil by this strange new disease called "progressive"
IMHO
6:28 probably had something Bonnie wanted Mary. She already lost your vote why bother?
I've been on the opposite side of issues with Neely more often than not, but she has always been professional, courteous, and respectful. And, though she has not always voted the way I would, she has always done so based upon evidence and procedure. I have never seen her take a vote that could be challenged as improper. Can't say the same for some other Supes.
Certainly folks don't have to agree with her, and folks don't have to vote for her, but no one should be accusing her of being ineffective or unprofessional.
I think you all have missed my point---what happens to the sixpack couple---do they wait for years to see progress in their community, something to be happy about. yes, we all agree that this is a wonderful place to live and raise children, but---what happens when they are raised----do they just leave like so many others have and we become distant families fighting travel and hotels to just say hi. maybe we need to try something new, something that can give us hope, something that will make us proud of our community, something that will take us to the promise land, the Humboldt that we all love and charish!!! isn't it time for change???
Children leave rural places everywhere. It has nothing to do with one particular supervisor or another. It is a phenomenon that happens all over, and it happens no more now than it did 20 years ago. We are no different than other places. In fact for a rural place our economy is pretty good. Look around; do you want the economy of DelNorte or Trinity Counties? If you are not proud of your community or cherish it now, a new supervisor is not going to get you that feeling.
Twenty years is too long for anyone to do any job.
So as I see it: No one has said any good jobs Bonnie has brought forward in 20 years! I am still waiting for a positive job related program that pays a living wage! Traded for $40,000 jobs lost with the Headwaters fund! I am telling you they were not replaced and will not with Neely.
yeah but there still aren't any oil rigs off the coast of Humboldt County !
that's a joke
The worst thing that has ever happened to Bonnie Neely was Nancy Flemming as Eureka's mayor.
And what $40,000 job is Flemming going to bring you? Floor manager at Home Depot? Is she going to open up a new pulp mill?
Every time samoasoftball writes more on these blogs the more grateful I am that he lost his election.
921, yes that is a gievn, so when do you say enough is enough, should we be a nobody like you say?
Mary, I agree whole-heartedly with much of what you posted up until the end.
The issues before us often get characterized as "growth or no-growth," or "Big Box or blight," but these are really false choices. The real question before us is "what kind of future would we like to see for Eureka and Humboldt County?" It is impossible to answer a question without first asking it, and yet that is essentially what the current City Council did when they scrapped the planning process for the Balloon Track.
Planning would have asked the people what they wanted to see built there, and then would have established a way to make that happen. Since the planning was not done, the community was instead given a false choice between the current proposal or nothing. Clearly, many people in the community do not like the singular choice that they have been presented, and are clamoring for more options.
Building good, healthy, vibrant, walkable communities is a vision that a lot of people share. Where there is disagreement is on the question of whether a store like Home Depot can coexist with such a vision. Many of us believe that it cannot, for reasons that have been hashed out time and time again.
The community cannot work toward a common vision if they are not invited to the table. This 'first come, first served' approach creates division and leads to protracted development battles, as we are seeing here. What the speakers at the CREG forum all spoke to was the value in a public planning process, as opposed to merely allowing the public to comment in the approval process. These are vastly different things. Examples from all over the country have shown that an inclusive planning process can get projects done faster, better, with less cost and more public buy-in.
The Truckee Railyards project is an excellent example. The Master Planning for that project was begun about the same time that the Eureka City Council voted to ditch such a process for the Balloon Track, but that project will likely break ground well before the Marina Center project is ever approved. Despite what Brian Morrissey has said, not a single dollar of public money has gone to the developer. In fact, the developer helped to fund the Master Planning process, committing to build whatever the community determined they wanted on the site. At this point, the Truckee Railyards project has no known opposition. None. That is a sign of a community that is united behind a vision, and that unity cannot be achieved without inviting people into the planning process.
Bonnie Neely clearly understands the value of participatory democracy, and the role of planning in good development. She understands that she is not elected to simply say "I like this project, therefore I'll vote for it." Rather, she is elected to listen to the people in her district and determine what kind of future they would like to see for their county. Bonnie knows that that question cannot be answered unless it has been asked.
Mary, all of what you said in the first part of your post argues strongly for supporting Bonnie Neely. If you want to have a voice in shaping Eureka's future, then I sincerely hope that you will reconsider your vote.
They 've got you there! 9:52
No, not at all. Just shows that Nancy Flemming really doesn't understand 'Smart Growth,' regardless of who she may or may not ahve talked to 16 years ago. Having spoken with or worked with experts from around the state, I can tell you that there is no one who would claim that Big Box retail is compatible with 'Smart Growth.'
It is interesting, though, that she talks about the value of a public planning process, but dismisses such a process for the Balloon Track.
I moved to San Francisco twice for short periods and I have to say the differences were refreshing and exciting at times. I felt like a tourist every day. I laughed myself blind one night when my car was towed in SF for being 'inside' someone's driveway (by three inches). They had plenty of space!
That happened to me once too, and I found out that the owner of the driveway hadn't even called. Their system is to send tow truck drivers around town who work freelance essentially. If they find a violator, they tow and get paid.
Outside my house a lane was left open for rush hour traffic for a couple of hours starting at 7 a.m. It fit with my schedule, so I parked there the night before and I would always go out at about 5 minutes to seven to leave. Very often, there was a tow trucker waiting there for the minute hand to reach 12. They were sometimes visibly upset when I showed up, because they'd lost their opportunity for a fee that morning - all the other potential violators having been staked out by their competitors. I almost felt guilty.
Sorry Mary. You are wrong. 16 years is a long time. Things have changed. You are just to stuck on history.
"It is interesting, though, that she talks about the value of a public planning process, but dismisses such a process for the Balloon Track."
Same for Virginia. Continually dissing the public comment at City Council meeting preferring to poll her constituants in private. Uh, that's not a public process.
Mary - Did you attend the recent CREG forum (or any of them)?
Absolutely. But gauging success by something that happened 16 years ago says little. The approach to "smart growth" has changed and more importantly so has the demographic of Eureka.
If you joined AA 16 years ago but are still drinking today wouldn't you think it time to consider AA again... or another approach?
Did you attend the CREG forum?
Hi, Mary. 9:52 and 12:12 here. I really appreciate your responses, in that they are thoughtful, respectful, and refreshingly free of the name-calling that many on both sides are guilty of. I do not have to agree with your conclusions to respect your opinions.
I was not a participant in the City's General Plan update, but I am very familiar with that document, as well as the Strategic Visioning Plan, the Local Coastal Program, the Humboldt Bay Management Plan, the Harbor Revitalization Plan, and numerous other documents pertaining to this site. ALL of these documents essentially diasallow building a Big Box retail store on this site. Then there's Measure J, which asked for exactly the same zoning change being asked for today. If Nancy Flemming is so proud of the work that she put into these documents, then why would she cast them aside when a developer wants to do something totally contradictory to all that she and the community worked for? To do so makes a mockery of the community's time and effort to plan for their future.
"It is frustrating- when I introduced the concepts to the city of Eureka in 1990, brought the experts on that subject in,(the ones who wrote the books on Smart Growth!) We were even an urban study for a class at Berkley which the City mgr. and I took part, at the time"
Deal with it. Smart Growth and Liveable Communities have not changed with the demographic of Eureka. These are viable planning concepts still being touted all over the country, the globe forchrissakes.
Truckee even. 16 years ago may be ancient history to you folks-think how long its been for someone working on it, put their sweat into it, termed out and now the come back!
Check out this website:
http://www.sierraclub.org/sprawl/community/
And don't tell me theres any Sierra Club haters out there I don't want to hear that.
So Mary - you had prejudged the CREG forum and therefore didn't attend?
BTW - There was quite a lengthy Q&A.
You weren't giving the lady's post much attention. "heartily disagree that any comparison to Measure J is relevant now".
As I read it she worked on Measure J to defeat it, doesn't think it has anything to do with the zoning change being requested now and as I recall from another of her posts she wanted to know where your ballot went off to. It never showed up did it?
You guys are just full of yourselves and like to hear the same thing over and over like some mantra. Don't be hypnotized. I like hearing from different people here don't monopolize.
gave the presenters an uninterrupted forum to present their ideas.
I have a 'New Yorker personality' (everyone talking at once) and would have wished to interrupt with questions at every plot point. But I have enjoyed reading about it in the papers, as well as here and other blogs...
She was giving you guys an uninterrupted presentation-don't you get it yet? Everybody is entitled to their opinion and my point made that you keep hogging the space to block her out of it. She's good writer.
Good for you Mary. Thanks for your input and insights.
16 years ago you didn't have people trying to use smart growth to further their corrupt agenda. That's the only difference.
Me, I'm looking forward to shopping at Home depot, I hope to be able to dine by the bay, let my kids play in that fountain, maybe have an office above it all.
What is my corrupt agenda?
They call her ; Needle Neely........her along with , Bass , Lavallee , wolford and the rest work for the r.c.a.a. and you guessed it.............it was Needle Neely who is taking our tax dollars and giving it to junkies .
They call her ; Needle Neely........her along with , Bass , Lavallee , wolford and the rest work for the r.c.a.a. and you guessed it.............it was Needle Neely who is taking our tax dollars and giving it to junkies .
12:39 Said:
"Sorry Mary. You are wrong. 16 years is a long time. Things have changed. You are just to stuck on history"
So 1239, is 1999 also ancient history?? You guys keep wanting to bring out the anti walmart vote, which I believe is not comparable with the current mixed use project proposal, complete with wetlands.
Mary, you are a breath of fresh air.
I agree with Rose
Er....about Mary being a breath of fresh air.
"The whole county planning dept., RCAA, the public, all the movers and shakers including you if you lived here at the time-were invited to the public planning process 16 years ago for the Balloon Track, the whole Waterfront, the General Plan Update!"
Mary, the outcome of that process was the recommendation to do a Master Planning study for the Balloon Track. This is echoed in every applicable planning document for the property. If this process was valuable, then why shouldn't we follow through with the recommendation?
DO NOT VOTE FOR "NEEDLE NEELY , BASS , LAVALLEE AND ALL THE OLD COUNCIL . GOTTA GET RID OF THOSE THAT GIVE MONEY TO METH USERS OR AS THEY CALL IT........SUBSTANCE ABUSERS ( TO DECIEVE YOU ) AND IT's JUST ANOTHER NAME FOR JUNKIES DESTROYING , EUREKA.............................AS , JERRY SAYS - TIME FOR A CHANGE !
8:27 Jerry I thought you did well in the debate last night considering you are up against a popular incumbant and a classy chick like Virginia Bass-don't ruin it with repetitive ramblings.
A little loaded is a good thing-stay that way bud!
I was never involved like you Mary, but I had friends who were, and I paid attention. They always asked that the building (when it was to be big) be designed so it wasn't a big square box, and so the multidimensional facade was born, (nationwide, not just here) designed to fit into a neighborhood, they asked that it be mixed use, that there be office space above, and for designs that were people and user friendly.
I have always wondered why Eureka's waterfront continued to be such a blighted strip of derelict old buildings. Even Lazio's which was one of the neatest things going didn't really have waterfront dining. Face it, the city side of Eureka's waterfront has been ugly - for years and years and years. Derelict buildings, rebar monuments from the last attempt, abandoned because the project became too expensive even to begin.
Buildings, from the Feuerwerker Building in Arcata, to the Carson Block Building in Eureka are assets that house many businesses and endeavors over the years, even centuries.
Now, with an opportunity for something to be done that will be NICE, not a metal building, but something really NICE, will Eureka really pass it up?
Because of nasty divisive politicos like Salzman scaring the populace?
Nancy Flemming is not acceptable. Mrs. B, are you related to long-time City of Eureka engineer Gary Boughton?
What does the Bill of Rights and the Constitution have to do with the city council, public process and the balloon tract?
Rose, I remembered something else:
In my research for design review, I contacted Del Starrett. Del is the designer of the Windsor Shopping Mall where there is an 'attractive' Wal Mart. Those two words don't usually go in the same sentence, but I wanted to know why this one was different-so I tracked him down.
Side Bar-Del's parents live in Fortuna.
The design review board, comprised of 26 community members had pushed for a Mall design that would fit the neighborhood flavor and match the roof slopes. I complimented him on the design, lamented with him that Wal Mart got in there.
I was operating at the time on the voter's possibly passing that zoning change. It was most important to me at that time to preserve the appearance of waterfront developments singly and to convince the then city council they needed to put it in writing for future developers.
-Mary
Lavallee cut off , Droz short of the 3 minute time limit , but if he likes what you say he'll let you talk much longer . His posters say " For the People" he is such a frigging liar ! All the old regime has gotta go !
Lavallee cut off , Droz short of the 3 minute time limit , but if he likes what you say he'll let you talk much longer . His posters say " For the People" he is such a frigging liar ! All the old regime has gotta go !
Lavallee cut off , Droz short of the 3 minute time limit , but if he likes what you say he'll let you talk much longer . His posters say " For the People" he is such a frigging liar ! All the old regime has gotta go !
Carol Ann-I have enjoyed quite a few of your posts. Makes me think there IS a middle ground.
I hate to keep blowing my own horn because most of my study is years old on the Balloon Track-but I was actually sworn in by the city clerk THIS year to verify a petition similar to Measure J, yet it was never delivered to the City Clerk.
I can't change the past or comment on what the city council has voted on regarding the Balloon Track because I have no idea what their body of information was. We elect officials to study the issues, most of us don't have the time. Its always appropriate to lobby them before a decision is made.
I have voted for Chris Kerrigan (2X) and Peter LaVallee (once). This time around I like most everyone running for one reason or another-yet I have to vote for those who study the issues at hand.
Peter LaVallee made a mistake in my eyes, when he stated the City of Eureka needs to force UP to cleanup the Balloon Track! Not so. Peter knows very well that the State of California is in charge of setting the standard and enforcing cleanup and abatement orders. I wasn't afraid to tell Peter-personally-that he was out of line for inciting people and misleading them. He replied that was his opinion and his right to state it. I lobbied the city council and the city manager to censure the mayor-as you can tell, nothing came of it.
You are right about politics today and it may well take some studying to catch up. All’s fair in love and war seems to be the norm-yet I would like to take the high road and try to do what is right. I have to follow my conscience and respect the right for others to do the same.
-Mary
Fred-Is there something going wrong? When I try to post as blogger, nothing happens...
Carol, I have read Lakoff's ridiculous POS book. I know it is the bible for your group. There's one valid chapter, the rest is a rant against Republicans, and justification for taking money from people who work to redistribute it to those who don't.
Divisive PARTISAN BS like that is a large part of the problems we are facing.
I'm looking forward to the day when elected officials vote, not for what the party line is, not for what the party says, but recognize that once elected, they do not represent the party any longer, they represent ALL of their constituents.
And, incidentally, it is this notion that you need to "structure the debate" instead of telling the truth that offends me so. Twisting the truth, bending it to fool the voters - I wonder how you sleep at night.
Look in a mirror Rose and answer that same question.
Look in a mirror Rose and answer that same question.
Look in a mirror Rose and answer that same question.
Were you in the audience when the Republicans hosted the debate between Gallegos and Dikeman?
Rose, you would be a good candidate to read John Dean's book. I was a Republican for twenty years, including time as an associate member of the Humboldt Co. Republican Central Commmittee and (believe it or not) was on Ronald Reagan's county election committee. The Republican Party has been coerced, co-opted and conquered by some real baddies. Of course, that is just my opinion. And tell us, just how partisan is it, for people like me and Carol to serve actively on HCDCC yet support Bonnie Neely, a Republican who very much deserves reelection?
Open your eyes. Read a few books. Get educated.
Whhhaat?
Whhhaat? Gallegos v. Dikeman? That's old news.
I'd support a ban on any elected official attending any party functions for at least three quarters of their term. No fundraising, no caucuses... and, elected officials, especially governors and presidents would be required to stay on for at least a year after their term, to pass along information, to ensure continuity, and to foster good will between parties.
And Greg, your newly chosen party is not without its share of "baddies."
"elected officials, especially governors and presidents would be required to stay on for at least a year after their term, to pass along information, to ensure continuity, and to foster good will between parties"
Just WHO would ever want to run, Rose?
Can we get back to why manufacturing jobs aren't ok for Eureka but ok for Arcata?
Well, 12:07. most of them want to stay on, and, besides that, they'd be paid. It would be an honored position, and supposedly they were in it for the good of the state or the country, and would be glad to ensure that a newly elected person (Republican or Democrat) didn't come in and waste time getting up to speed without any input. The bitter divisive way we do it now is counterproductive for all of us. It might also temper the bitter divisve political campaigning if the opponents knew they would still have to work with each other.
But, hey, it's a pipe dream, just like all of CREG's "Possibilites."
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Carol, Were you in the audience when the Republicans hosted the debate between Gallegos and Dikeman?
Carol and Greg - you like to post like you are so reasonable...
sigh...
it takes one who has seen you viciously turn on other life long dems to tell the world that you are frauds and that you both have done more to hurt democratic causes then anything else I can think of .....
Shame on both of you.
You ask how partisan is it for you to support Republican Bonnie....you are so partisan it is unbelievable... she is not a republican and not a dem...not by any of the standards I was raised with...
Yes - and thank you for pointing out that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are the foundation of this country... How awfully condescending of you to point that out. And also how grateful we should be for you to also point out that the city of Eureka is in the US...wouldn't have figured that out either.
And for the "death of Habeas Corpus" what death...it is alive well and used frequently
Sigh.....
I find both of you destructive to true liberal values and elitist. Sigh... However, I still believe in your right to speak although you both do what you can to boo and hiss those that you disagree with in public. I will not ever forget your truly acidic and caustic attack of another lifelong dem (not just a recent one like you Greg)...it was and is unforgivable. I am embarrassed that you identify as being in member in the party I have been a member in all of my life.
Were you Rose?
Yes.
It's My Party, Too: The Battle for the Heart of the GOP and the Future of America by Christine Todd Whitman
This goes for Democrats 2.
1:54 is not Rose...Although I find her points very convincing and very reasonable.
Unfortunately Rose, Bonnie and Peter are in the same soup-to get the support they both needed for reelection they had to bend to the will of those controlling the power-and the purse strings of the HCDCC.
Have to agree with Fred that the mailer was risky. Working class folks who are the majority of registered Democrats seem a tad put off by the language of recent mailers.
It makes sense that campaign staff put that out without approval but what are the odds we will hear an apology from Bonnie Neely? Not likely.
Her?
Im tired of hearing about pie and sixpacks! Who eats pie and who drinks beer-where are this Joe and Jill and why are they too busy to write a letter to those papers?
IMHO
Similarities between Neely and Flemming both Republican, both have served on the Coastal Commission.
Difference:
Neely has not looked talked, or squawked like a Republican in years and the main support is HCDCC/Local Solutions/Pierson
Flemming who should talk more like a Republican herself has been working for Smart Growth, Liveable Communities, controlled development especially along the waterfront for years and years.
We are not facing oil wells/drilling rigs/CalPine anymore hence no need for the henchmen and their stooge Neely.
We need a new scrappy fighter, I like Flemming. Vote for Flemming 4th District Supervisor!
Before you smart alex start in again scroll up to the top of the posts and read what she had to say.
1:18 As I read through the posts about your AA comment it seems like flemming is AA. We have been dormant too long. Supervisors could have done something with their 500 Million dollars by now but they didnt. Time for a change. Burp.
by Joe Sixpack
Joe Sixpack is a welder.
"I'm looking forward to the day when elected officials vote, not for what the party line is, not for what the party says, but recognize that once elected, they do not represent the party any longer, they represent ALL of their constituents."
Rose, someone only says this kind of thing when their party is not in power.
Oh Really?
3:35 whos party is not in power-?the answer is not roses party dont try it!
Greg and Carol Conners and Bonnie Neely support Arnold and Bush? Oh well, you already heard that Greg supported Reagan!
Neely supports Arnold-ya riiiight
Shes no Republican and now shes a crappy Democrat too-turncoat!
-Joe Sixpack
Supervisor is a non-partisan position.
Party affiliation should not even enter into it.
You are fortunate to have two qualified people to choose from.
Rose, why then does the Republican Central Committee have a slate mailer out that includes Nancy Flemming but does not include Bonnie Neely - a 20 year Republican incumbent? Why would they do that?
Yes, I supported Reagan, to my regret, as a young, dumb Republican wannabe. Arnold and Bush, come on - I left the Republican party when Newt Gingrich showed up and started pandering to Christian right-wingers. Dubya was still high and Arnold was still lifting weights for a living.
Like John Dean I have seen the Republican party morph into an evil and dangerous organization (no offense to the innocent or ignorant who still maintain Republican registration). Now I am a Howard Dean Democrat. Carol and I have simply done what Governor Dean asked us to -- we showed up. I would like to think sincere patriots can disagree about issues and candidates, but that's not the case with some.
It is far too easy to lie behind a cloak of anonymity, 4:35. The country is screwed up badly enough that we should be looking for common ground, not taking cheap potshots on a blog for the entertainment of these right-wing foamers.
Best,
Greg
Hey Greg: You and your wife are on the list for Democrats for Neely? Wow. Answered alot of questions for me. Thanks.
Richard Marks
Working Class Democrat
Needle Neely has got to go ! Enough is enough . NO MORE "HELP" for criminals !!
Any Democrats or Republicans that don't support jobs for me and other laborers aren't getting a vote from any one I know.
Don't all candidates basically say in one way or another they support jobs.
samoasoftball...
There you go again making me so glad you were not elected. Richard is a democrat that would bring you oil rigs and big boxes. Same kind of old school union thinking that has been tearing down the Midwest for years now, with their resistance such things as higher fuel efficiency standards. Helping to leave the U.S. car industry in the dust.
Old School Union thinking?? That wasn't Richard Marks posting moron!
Every single newcomer gets shot at-you'd think someone here was protecting their grow!
-Joe Sixpack
It disappoints me to see Richard Marks fall off the deep end on this one. Hey Richard, did you know Barbara Shults is going around telling people that just because you support Bass, you support her as well? I'd think twice about voting for Virginia if it means giving Barbara more power to abuse.
10:11 You may be close to the target (no pun intended). As the neighborhoods are unaffordable, settlers have to look for affordable housing in non- traditional settings...hmmmm.
Now did anyone think that I am Richard Marks?
Barbara....ah yes bird killer extraordinare she is. Quick! Hide your songbirds when she comes around.
9:25am Oil rigs and big boxes? What? I am an environmentlist liberal democrat! You are one sick anonymous puppy. Must swing from the right.
Don't vote for , NEEDLE NEELY . She's another R.C.A.A. regime member .
Alex H.
Hey, Fred! What in the hell is a "Cobb/Pickering commentary?" Is that like a Bush/Bass commentary, only far more interesting and well-written? Can George W. Bush write? Can he do anything for that matter? (Other than snort large amounts of cocaine) What is Virginia Bass's qualification for mayor of Eureka/Arkleyville? She likes to accept free plane rides from the Arkleys? Well, that must be good enough for the average Republican. Of course, the average Republican is a brainless, racist moron.
You got that right. Republicans are so damned racist, they burn crosses at night compulsively. And who in the hell actually voted for Virginia Bass???
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