Thursday, October 19, 2006

The Unknown Pollsters

I can't help but wonder what these two pollsters were up to? At first I figured they were from the anti- Marina Center camp from the question they asked respondents about being coerced into giving the answer they gave.

Then again, I suppose it could be some pro- Marina Center folks trying to point out that respondents to their poll that supported Marina Center hadn't been coerced. Still, seems like I weird thing to follow up a question with- Almost like there's some conspiracy at play here.

Who are those pollsters?

21 Comments:

At 9:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My guess, these "pollsters" are with or associated with CREG.

This has got "Trickie Dickie" all over it. It is a conspiracy. Not a conspiracy to overthrow the government but a conspriacy none the less.

 
At 9:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard about a different one asking some push poll questions about Lavallee and Bass.

 
At 9:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they stated that they work for the Times Standard, doesn't that answer the question? Do you really think they were lying?

 
At 9:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:16, that one's being done by the Humboldt Sentinel.

 
At 9:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This really isn't news.

 
At 10:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred, why don't you just wait for the real story in the real newspaper instead of jumping to another conspiracy conclusion.

 
At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved how the Times-Standard quote about the newspaper not being involved was buried deep in the Eureka Reporter article. Slimy.

 
At 10:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:32 you are the slimey one. Your "buried deep" comment is just inflamatory BS. The article was so short the most it could be is buried very shallow. The issue is who where these two and what were they up to.

I thought the ER was just fine in it's mention of the T/S quote.

"wait for the real story in the real newspaper" Why wait you can read it online at the Eureka Reporter!

 
At 11:56 AM, Blogger Fred said...

9:39 wrote, "If they stated that they work for the Times Standard, doesn't that answer the question? Do you really think they were lying?".

I don't know. Maybe the T-S will clear it up tommorow?

T-S publisher seems to be saying if they are from the Times- Standard, they're reporters, but he's not specifically aware of anyone from T-S doing a survey. He's probably not in the loop, at least at this point in time.

Still, is it a common journalism practice to asked if someone has been coerced into answering a question a certain way? Seems rather odd to me.

 
At 11:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever is doing this is certainly not a legitimate pollster. I mean, who asks "Are you being coerced?" and expects a real answer? My guess is its someone not associated with either side, maybe just some students doing a project for HSU. Now, why they identified themselves as from the TS, I don't know, but it doesn't sound like anything that would be valuable to either side. It's not after legitimate opinions, and the way it asks about coercion is unlikely to get any valid answers.

 
At 12:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Citizens For Real Economic Growth spokesperson Larry Evans said that he is not aware of any business-to-business survey being conducted on behalf of CREG. Evans said that it is possible a CREG affiliate might be doing this, but “not as an agreed-upon activity by anybody.”"

Just what is a "CREG affiliate" as CREG does not give out any information about their organization?

Still waiting for spokesperson Larry Evans to comment on what "real economic growth" CREG proposes besides stopping Home Deopt and the proposed Marina Center.

 
At 1:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next time a couple of weird people ask some dumb questions of me while in my business I will have to call the ER to report. I can't believe this was a headline. This story is so trivial its embarrassing.

 
At 1:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just keep your head in the sand 1:05, and please, please, please, don't vote.

 
At 1:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder if the 'pollster' is this guy?

From: michael raymond
Subject: Contact information for the Times Standard on your campaign is needed! Urgently!
date: 10_7_06
to: all campaign managers and candidates

re: Contact information for the Times Standard on your campaign is needed! Urgently!

I am a volunteer collecting all contact information on all campaigns for The Times Standard. This information will be printed in their newspaper to provide voters easier access to your campaign for information, events, and contributions. I have been working on this project in my spare time for over two weeks and I am over one and one half weeks late in getting this information to the paper.

 
At 4:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:05 .... why should you be embarassed ? You didn't do anything ? Did you ?

It's just a sign of the sleaze and slime to come.

 
At 7:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The T-S quote about non-involvement should have been third paragraph. State the claim in the first two paragraphs, then the counter claim. No later. It's definitely "slimy" to interview people at length before providing the counter viewpoint... especially considering that a connection to the T-S is weak. If someone wanted to ask those questions and avoid divulging who was doing the asking, of course they would state the name of a newspaper. A T-S or Journal reporter wouldn't flinch at providing his or her real name (and those same reporters would never ask such blatantly biased questions or act in the manner described). The whole "poll" thing is so entirely bogus it's a shame the ER gave it this sort of play. It stinks of editorial bias. If this is the sort of thing we can expect from the newspaper war, I'll just go out and finally subscribe to the T-S. But I so enjoy getting the news for free online.

 
At 8:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But wait, if you state in the third paragraph that the T-S denies any association with the mystery pollster(s), doesn't that ruin your story?

Oh, wait, it would ruin the story. 'nuff said.

 
At 8:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Point is, is that it is not really a story.

 
At 10:14 PM, Blogger Rose said...

I am told that Michael Raymond IS a freelancer hired by the TS to compile data to publish as a voter guide, apparently NOT related to the unkown pollsters. Maybe someone from the TS will verify.

 
At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got phone polled about the City Council about 2 weeks ago.

 
At 12:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IN OTHER news, there's a rumor going around that some people asked some other people some questions about something, said they worked for the T-S, and it made the front page.

 

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