Monday, November 10, 2008

Recyclables Becoming Unsellable

I guess it's not just Evergreen Pulp that's taking a hit from the markets. The Sacramento Bee reports the market for recyclable materials has taken a nose dive and some recyclables can't be sold no matter how low the price.

I wonder how this is going to affect Eureka's mandatory recycling program that starts January 1st? Heck, I wonder how this is going to affect people who already drop off their own recyclables?

As always, if asked for a login to the SacBee site, you can use humboldtlib as a username and blogspot for the password.

17 Comments:

At 9:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SUPPORTERS OF PROP H8te (ARCATA & EUREKA):

GUNNER ARGO
Gunner Kydd’balou Argo
1868 Sutter Rd. #3
Mckinleyville, California 95519
(253) 224-0458
ARCATA CA
HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY
Assistant Track & Field Coach
Phone: 826-5954
Email: ga26@humboldt.edu
Gunner Argo’s MySpace Page
“Voted most likely to go on a shooting spree,
class of 2000.”
$500 Donation

GALE KING
139 Sunny Acres Ave
Arcata, California 95521 (Fieldbrook)
822-2641
ARCATA CA
STATE FARMS INSURANCE AGENT
1010 G Street
Arcata, CA 95521-5816
Website (with photo)
Phone: (707) 822-4811
License Number: 0487827
$199 Donation

J GREENWOOD DDS
2727 A Meadow Creek Way
Arcata, California 95521
822-1703
ARCATA CA
ST. JOSEPH’S HOSPITAL
DENTIST
$250 Donation

KEVIN HAMBLIN
3630 Coombs Ct.
Arcata, California 95521
826-2756
ARCATA CA
CITY OF EUREKA
EUREKA CITY PLANNER
(707) 441-4164
$2,000 Donation

JANIS GREENWOOD
2727 A Meadow Creek Way
Arcata, California 95521
822-1703
ARCATA CA
HOMEMAKER
$200 Donation

KATRINA RICHARDSON
3500 Ribeiro Ln.
Arcata, California 95521
822-8124
ARCATA CA
RETIRED
$200 Donation

ALAN SMITH
3318 Harrison
Eureka, California 95503
707-442-8191
EUREKA
RETIRED
$1,000

ALLENE BIASCA
6807 Bret Harte Lane
Eureka, California 95503
707-443-3441
EUREKA
RETIRED
$100

BOB HANSEN
3147 Dolbeer St. #18
Eureka, California 95503
707-268-0300
EUREKA
R.J. HANSEN ADVERT. & PUBLISHING
PUBLISHER
$100

BRANDY LARSEN
5786 Christine Drive
Eureka, California 95503
707-441-9586
HUMBOLDT ORTHOPEDICS
2826 Harris Street,
Eureka, CA 95503
PHYSICIANS ASSISTANT
$500

CAROLINE ROUSE
2261 Home Drive
Eureka, California 95503
707-445-0760
EUREKA
HOMEMAKER
$650

CHILDERS INSURANCE AGENCY, INC./CHUCK & SHERRY CHILDERS
2756 E St
Eureka, CA 95501-4330
707-445-4188
1434 Fay Avenue
Samoa, California 95564
707-445-8343
$1,000

CRYSTENE JENSEN
15 W. Cedar St.
Eureka, California 95501
476-8892
EUREKA VETERANS CLINIC
714 F St.
Eureka, CA 95501
Phone: (707) 442-5335
ADMIN ASST
$100

DOUGLAS BAKER
2603 Swanlund Lane
Eureka, California 95503
707-442-9464
EUREKA
STATE COMPENSATION INSURANCE
LOSS CONTROL CONSULTANT
$200

GENE WELLING
gene@northcoast.com
2232 Wood St
Eureka, California 95501
EUREKA
RETIRED
$100

JOSEPH EASTHAM
EUREKA
STUDENT
$150

KATHERINE BLAIR
blair95503@yahoo.com
158 Apple Valley Ln.
Eureka, California 95503
707-443-6920
EUREKA
HOMEMAKER
$100

LAW OFFICE OF BRADFORD C FLOYD /BRADFORD C. FLOYD
1125 Redmond Road
Eureka, California 95503
707-444-8165

819 7th St
Eureka, CA 95501
(707) 445-9754
–$5,000–

LISA PACE
1610 Sunny Avenue
Eureka, California 95501
707-442-2163
Eureka School Board Member
PACE CHEM-DRY/Home Depot
2249 Myrtle Avenue
Eureka, CA 95501-3325
Phone: 707-443-9969
FRANCHISE OWNER
$1,000

LORIS WOODEN
546 Valley View Drive
Eureka, California 95503
707- 443-2059
EUREKA
RETIRED
$100

RICHARD WOODEN
546 Valley View Drive
Eureka, California 95503
707- 443-2059
EUREKA
RETIRED
$200

ROBERT C. MCLAUGHLIN
EUREKA READY MIX, CO.
1955 Hilfiker Lane
Eureka, CA. 95503
707-443-2791
FAX 707-443-1363
PRESIDENT
$100

ROBERT COFFAN
EUREKA
RETIRED
$125

ROBERT WITTE
2956 Harris Street
Eureka, California 95503
707-443-3224
SOUTH BAY MINI STORAGE
2031 Eich Rd
Eureka, CA 707-442-4631
OFFICE MANAGER
$100

OGDEN CRAIG
2524 F St
Eureka, California 95501
707-442-6694
EUREKA VETERANS CLINIC
714 F St.
Eureka, CA 95501
Phone: (707) 442-5335
MD
$1,000

PETER LINDQUIST
2972 Old Arcata Rd
Bayside, California 95524
707-825-9005
PETER LINDQUIST ATTORNEY
819 SEVENTH STREET
EUREKA, CA 95501
707 444-0500 Fax 707 444-0501
$500

RICHARD MEDLEY
3425 Glen Street
Eureka, California 95503
707-445-8922
EUREKA
HUMBOLDT COUNTY
PROBATION OFFICER
$500

 
At 9:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What has this got to do with recycling??

 
At 9:37 AM, Blogger Fred said...

Ooops. He probably posted it in the wrong comments thread. I'd delete it, but I haven't been able to delete comments (once they've been posted) for a few weeks now.

 
At 10:43 AM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

Fred,
Wrong thread or not the anonymous "comment" is obviously an effort to tar political opponents with the "hate" label. You have moderation enabled. What gives?

 
At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Ozzy said...

I'm curious how the 21 percent rate hike from the Humboldt Waste Authority is going to impact Eureka's program. It's going to cost a lot more now with this hike than originally proposed back in the summer.

 
At 12:43 PM, Blogger Fred said...

Leonidas wrote, "...You have moderation enabled. What gives?".

I didn't see all that much wrong with information on contributors being posted as it is on the public record. I did miss that it was being sent to this thread. I just assumed it was meant for the post a few back and didn't realize it was for here.

Quite honestly, I'm surprised how short that list is. There's a few other names I expected to see there.

 
At 3:00 PM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

Sure it's public record, but is it characterized as "...H8te..."?

 
At 3:34 PM, Blogger Eric V. Kirk said...

Probably won't affect the program at all, except to increase the expense. I believe the current state requirement is that the fifty percent of the landfill volume be reduced through recycling.

 
At 5:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plus there's a new law taking effect in January 09 that requires ID and a thumbprint (similar to a pawn transaction) for junk and recycling sellers. It's an attempt to curb copper and aluminum thefts.

 
At 11:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck Childers ran for office in Eureka a few years ago and lost. He is possibly the most powerful member of the big Mormon Church in McKinleyville.

 
At 7:13 AM, Blogger Fred said...

Eric wrote, "Probably won't affect the program at all, except to increase the expense.".

If they don't have any place to ship the recyclables that could be a problem. Maybe even a serious one. Where will they store all the stuff nobody wants?

One thing that's not too clear is just what they're having problems with. I would think aluminum cans are still easily recycled. I think paper products are probably a big one, along with plastics.

Plastic bags might not be a problem. I read somewhere recently that they send the bags to Nevada to make phony wood. I would think they're still accepting those although plastic bags don't take up a lot of landfill space.

 
At 8:33 AM, Anonymous humboldt heretic said...

Most recycling is simply part of the green religion.
"[In 1987]believing that there was no more room in landfills, Americans concluded that recycling was their only option. Their intentions were good and their conclusions seemed plausible. Recycling does sometimes make sense -- for some materials in some places at some times. But the simplest and cheapest option is usually to bury garbage in an environmentally safe landfill. And since there's no shortage of landfill space (the crisis of 1987 was a false alarm), there's no reason to make recycling a legal or moral imperative. Mandatory recycling programs aren't good for posterity. They offer mainly short-term benefits to a few groups -- politicians, public relations consultants, environmental organizations, waste-handling corporations -- while diverting money from genuine social and environmental problems. Recycling may be the most wasteful activity in modern America: a waste of time and money, a waste of human and natural resources."

"A. Clark Wiseman, an economist at Gonzaga University in Spokane, Wash., has calculated that if Americans keep generating garbage at current rates for 1,000 years, and if all their garbage is put in a landfill 100 yards deep, by the year 3000 this national garbage heap will fill a square piece of land 35 miles on each side. This doesn't seem a huge imposition in a country the size of America. The garbage would occupy only 5 percent of the area needed for the national array of solar panels proposed by environmentalists. The millennial landfill would fit on one-tenth of 1 percent of the range land now available for grazing in the continental United States. And if it still pains you to think of depriving posterity of that 35-mile square, remember that the loss will be only temporary. Eventually, like previous landfills, the mounds of trash will be covered with grass and become a minuscule addition to the nation's 150,000 square miles of parkland."

 
At 9:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The paper products are going to be the issue as the sales price has dropped significantly to the recyclers. San Francisco news reported that the recyclers have been storing paper/cardboard as there are few orders and the price that had been at $200 a ton had dropped to $12 a ton with few orders.

The pulp industry is at a real low currently and will probably come back but no telling when as consumers are purchasing less and the need for boxes for lots of products is not there at this time.

 
At 10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mandatory Garbage service begins on January 1st. The recycling program begins on July 1st, not January 1st. They cannot begin until the get the containers.

 
At 10:05 AM, Blogger Fred said...

That is correct. Thanks for the correction.

 
At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comment on the contributions to Yes on 8 may have gone to the wrong place but it was very interesting. I see a few businesses I will not be patronizing on that list. They have freedom of speech, and I have the freedom not to do business with those that would deny equal protection to all.

I would suspect if you could find out most of these people are Mormons. It would be poetic justice if the Mormon Church lost its tax exempt status as a result of this campaign.

 
At 12:20 PM, Blogger Fred said...

Speaking of recycling, I just came back from Eureka City Garbage and noticed the Arcata Recycling place is holding an open house this Saturday, November 15. I don't know if I'll be able to get myself off my ass to attend but I would like to see how their system works.
http://www.arcatarecycling.org/

 

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