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I'm sure this isn't the last we've heard of it, but the proposed ban on plastic shopping bags has been defeated. Finally some good news out of Sacramento!
posted by Fred Mangels @ 7:37 AM
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Wednesday, September 01, 2010
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6 Comments:
An easier route would be to persuade grocery chains to collectively charge a fee for plastic bags, or all store-provided bags.
Many do offer a no-bag discount, usually 5 cents per cloth bag a customer uses, but the other way around would be more effective.
Winco gives you a six cent refund per bag.
One of the things that burned me about this bill is that the cost of the bags is already part of your bill yet, if I understood it correctly, they were going to allow the stores to charge yet an additional fee for using the bags they'd be allowed to use.
I like plastic grocery bags. With them, I can carry my groceries from my car to my home with confidence that they will not suddenly rip or burst, the way paper bags do.
If they stop making these convenient, reusable bags available at grocery stores, I will no longer be able to bring them to the grateful people at our local thrift shops.
Cloth bags have to be washed sometimes, you know. Washing them uses both soap and water. How does that help our environment?
what we need is a answer to the problems cause by plastic bags. You know a solution. Not more stupid bills that feel good or are written to the advantage of of some corp.
connect the dots
In some countries they got homeless dudes scouring for polyethylene bags to get the redemption value. In America not only do we got no redemption value but recycling centers won't take them.
Do connect the dots though. If the government really has our best environmental interests in mind, why not ban plastic and paper bags equally? Both are bad for the environment in different ways.
On washing cloth bags anonymous are you serious? Regular soap - not messed up antibacterial or detergent - is not that bad for the environment. Considering the average never been in a drought American household uses 100K gallons of water per year, what does washing a bag matter?
Most of the stuff people use plastic bags for is dumb. Like people wrap their vegetables in plastic and toss them in the fridge. Then four days later they are like it is rotten now better throw it away. They could have just wrapped it in a wet rag for two weeks. That's what I do. I guess I do use hella propane every time I wash the rags. If they ever come out with a solar washing machine that doesn't break down I will quit doing that. What's up with that anyway? They got great brushless refrigerators but solar washing machines for whatever reason are shit.
How would the ban have cost jobs? Might have increased them? Is plastic more labor intensive than paper?
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