Tuesday, June 17, 2014

Volcanos Melting Glaciers

I was surprised this story on volcanic activity in the Antarctic contributing to glacier melt made Yahoo News. Believers can relax. They included the obligatory mention of global warming.

One thing I've been wondering for a while is how much heat the earth itself generates? It's supposed to be super hot in the center of the earth. Some of that heat must radiate towards the surface, never mind the subterranean magma flows we know about. 

I'm wondering if whatever heat the earth gives off is constant, or does it go up and down? Does anybody measure this sort of thing?


At 10:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you seen the movie "Chasing Ice", it's a Netflix choice. I've seen it and I'm scared straight.

At 10:51 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Nope. Never even heard of it.

At 11:01 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Oh, I see. It's one of those documentaries for Believers.

At 11:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad to see you have an open mind.

At 11:56 AM, Anonymous MOLA:42 said...

Iceland has lots of volcanoes and yet people still foolishly call the place "Iceland."

Non-believers know of course that Iceland, due to the volcanoes, is a tropical paradise.

Yes, volcanoes are hot. But they are not hot enough to effect even an island, let alone a continent.

But go ahead and continue to cherry-pick the information you wish to believe in. Meanwhile, the science goes on... and the picture painted by the evidence is not a nice one.

At 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's so sad to see people who are anti-science... helped along by the lopsided presentation we get in the news media... 1 v 1 talking heads instead of 99 v 1 talking heads to accurately represent the scientific consensus.

At 5:22 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

MOLA wrote, "But go ahead and continue to cherry-pick the information you wish to believe in. Meanwhile, the science goes on... and the picture painted by the evidence is not a nice one."

Oh, damn, I forgot. The science is settled, isn't it? Lol.

At 5:25 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

"t's so sad to see people who are anti-science... helped along by the lopsided presentation we get in the news media.".

I can't imagine where you came up with that. News media tends to go along with the Believers. CNN has ran editorials saying we shouldn't be listening to those that question your science. That's why I wrote I was surprised the news item in question showed up on Yahoo News.

At 6:44 PM, Anonymous MOLA:42 said...

Fred Mangles 5:22:

Pretty much as far as Climate Change and human participation in it's acceleration is concerned, yes.


As far as Yahoo "News" is concerned... they pretty much run whatever is at hand without too much thought as to either credibility or authenticity.

Scientific evidence does not magically change depending on what you choose to believe or deny. It just is.

At 6:50 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

And you're full of crap. You believe whatever science fits your fancy, as do many people.

At 6:57 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

For those that might be interested, here's MOLA's post on the Tuluwat Examiner:

Just one quote:

"So, Lesson #1: No matter what, always remember that Science is NOT infallible (which is true of any human institution). Science, as some would have it, is not God."

Of course, he feels the politically correct version of popularscience regarding global warming, has been settled, despite the unheard of thousands of scientists that might disagree, either in whole, or in part.

At 7:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like that you post "Believers" with a capital "B" like the infallible "Being" ie "God" aren't you a strange little "Monkey".

So, I might have missed your postings, do you have a scientific background, computer modeling experience, research notes? Where do you get your scientific information? What makes you so confident?

At 8:12 PM, Anonymous MOLA:42 said...


I always appreciate a careful reader.

Which you aren't.

You are cherry picking from what I wrote what meets your fancy.

Skepticism is the hallmark of the scientific method.

Ignoring the evidence Science provides is not.

The vast majority of scientist who study the Earth's climate agree that there is both climate change and human causation.

Three percent do not. If you want to hang out with the three percent that's your concern.

I don't think your saying I am full of crap is an argument winner. Nor does it show you in the best possible light.

I am sorry if I have annoyed you.

At 8:16 PM, Anonymous MOLA:42 said...


Oh darn, I forgot.

Where are these thousands of scientists that do not agree concerning climate change hanging out?

They're keeping a mighty low profile (if they exist).

At 12:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred, to answer your question, the Earth does not give off heat. Heat is a measure of the activity of molecules... in space there are no molecules to move around since it is a vacuum. The earth may give off radiation which might "heat" an object in space... however my guess is that the Earth reflects far more of the suns radiation than radiation generated by Earth itself.

At 7:00 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

David Friedman looked into the 97% claim earlier this year. Keep in mind he's a believer (small b):

He came to the conclusion, as I did some years ago, that the guy who came up with the 97% figure was throwing anyone who thought man might have the slightest impact on the atmosphere as believers in global warming.

I can't find the petition that was going around years ago of scientists that didn't agree with the supposed consensus of AGW or CAGW. I did find numerous references to scientists who disagree with the idea. It seems a number of them were suing Algore at some point:

As is normally the case, Believers deride those scientists as shills for the oil companies, or nut cases.

At 10:27 AM, Blogger Rose said...

Yahoo tends to run AP and Reuters articles.


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