Van Houten Granted Parole
The Santa Rosa Press- Democrat, along with many other outlets, reports that former Manson family member and convicted murderer, Leslie Van Houten, was granted parole yesterday by a state parole board. Now it's up to Governor Brown to approve it.
I don't understand those that insist she stay in prison longer. Probably the same bunch that insisted another family member, Susan Atkins, be kept in prison despite having serious health problems that pretty much incapacitated her. I can only chalk it up to the many people that enjoy kicking someone when they're down- They do it because they can, from the safety of their own lives.
I watched an earlier parole hearing for Van Houten years ago on Court TV, back when she still had dark hair. I was impressed with her and wouldn't have had a problem then if she was released and ended up moving in next door to me. Nothing seems to have changed. She still has a stellar record as a prisoner.
In fact, I read somewhere that she'd quietly been paroled years ago, although that parole was revoked after a drug test showed she'd been smoking pot.
So what? She's not the only one. I hope the Governor approves her parole.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 7:42 AM
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So what?...This seems to be the new motto of this country.
"...the many people who enjoy kicking an evil person when they're down."
Fixed that for you.
"so what" is an appropriate response to smoking pot. It's a victimless crime. it's called live and let live" "whatever floats your boat, just don't sink mine" "everyman for himself"
I agree, "so what" should be the new motto. Then control freaks won't be as empowered
There are plenty of people in Humboldt walking around every day that are FAR MORE dangerous than her.
A convicted murderer being considered for parole?
Hmm, the murder must now be viewed as "a justified killing of a grocer and his wife.'
So, the parole board of frauds says she is not a risk to the public.....Wow, not a risk versus " punishment".
First, Van Houston turns a blind eye away (evidence she knew what she was a part of was wrong), then, she was asked to help (she did not refrain), then she helps strangle, let be stabbed to death and post mortem carved tatto with the word "war."
If she is let out, HOJ prays she is murdered, bludgeoned, killed too......what goes around should come back around for her torturing, murdering, accomplice ways.
Lots of people do harder drugs than this bitch and don't commit capital offenses.
She's dead if she gets put!
That is a shit load of murderers then!
Parole to those who commit a capital offense, but that the criminal is not a threat to the public.
Wow, let a so called non threatening person be paroled because the murder they committed was acceptable behavior.
Shit, this parole board crap suggests killing a cop or politician makes more sense than an innocent grocer and his wife! This suggests paroles for all murderers thaturder with a better reason than Van Houston. Like, Jerry Brown, surely lots of rural landowners have a better reason to justify murdering a sitting California governor who uses dictator power over rule by law.
Between Obama, Brown and Bill Clinton, it is clear Democrats are dictators by decree too.
Say Fred, Bernie has worn out his welcome at Richard Linklater's and he wants to know if your guest room is available!
"Wow, let a so called non threatening person be paroled because the murder they committed was acceptable behavior."
Nobody is saying it was acceptable. If anything is being said, it's that this happened over 40 years ago. We've all done things in our past we know we shouldn't have.
The question is whether she's still a threat to society. I don't see a 60 some year old lady with an exemplary record in prison being a threat, perhaps for either of those reasons: She's too old, and she's done very well in prison.
"...he wants to know if your guest room is available!"
We don't have a guest room. You might refer him to the Mercer- Fraser property on Washington Street. They're considering housing some homeless there.
Fred, we must face the consequences of our actions. It would not be good to live in a"Lord of the Flies "type of society. We will not agree on this topic, however I do respect your insight and compassion.
The "gesture of parole for a murderer who committed....murder, not manslaughter" is a gesture of acceptability, suffice to say.
Further, what deterrent is a prison system if those who murder in such a grotesque method as Van Houtan are let out - something to look forward too.....that is a crock of crap to theorize murderers are no longer a threat, so let em out. Again, punishment is not freedom. Punishment is death or a life behind bars. HOJ don't give a flying fuck either that the bitch was a former beauty pageant. The bitch is a murderer and deserves no less than Manson! Good conduct in prison is not a qualifier for parole to a murderer of this magnitude.
If Van Houtan was bed stricken dumb, dimentia, last legs of life, then OK, HOJ sees a cost cutting benefit.
Van Houtan apparently is doing great in prison, so keep the bitch there, she can earn 2 cents per hour paying off her public bills.
The only thing here that I think and feel is,as all you commentors put it,"crap",is all of your negative and derogatory comments. If I'm not mistaken she is housed in Californias department of corrections and REHABILITATION in chino, where she has earned several college degrees, aides and tutors others pursuing degrees,been a role model and peer mentor to numerous women in the past 40+ years (including myself) and changed each and every one of those women's lives. Some listened and learned and never returned, the rest, well, no secret, became habitual criminals. People can change. Know and believe that. Yes what she did is wrong and there is no excuse or changing it, but she has served her time and as long as she can lie down and sleep each night with herself then I think those negative Nellie's need to find a job or something other than knocking people who are just trying to survive. Get a life, you all sound pathetic and lonely.
I know Leslie personally and I guarantee if you did too you would have a very different opinion of her being granted parole.
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