Tuesday, June 17, 2008

Thompson Votes To Impeach

Looks like our very own congressdude, Mike Thompson, joined the movement to impeach President Bush and voted for Dennis Kucinich's resolution for impeachment. This is a bit of a surprise to me, not so much the motion to impeach, but that Thompson went along with it. I'm also surprised that it passed in the House in the first place.

I might not be as much of a Bush hater as some, but the idea of cherry- picking evidence and embellishing the case to go to war is nothing new. I think Bill Clinton (and nearly everybody else, it seems) did the same thing when the case was made to attack Yugoslavia. The players- that- be over there have been slashing each other's throats for centuries, yet we cherry picked incidents to make it sound like it was all one side's fault.

And I'm sure some are now wondering, as I am, if we might have picked the wrong side in Yugoslavia to fight for after it was all said and done.

In case any of you are interested, the roll call vote on the impeachment resolution can be found here. Interesting enough, yet again, is that Congressman and past Republican presidential candidate, Ron Paul, also voted for the resolution.
As an aside, I received this and other information on votes cast in congress from a list I subscribe to from Congress.org. It's called Megavote and once every week or two they send out a list of votes taken, a very brief description of the item being voted one and how Thomspon, Boxer and Feinstein voted on them. Your choice. If you'd like to subscribe, just use the Megavote link.


At 9:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred- again, you surprise me!
Certainly pols have gotten us into wars, conflicts and such through whatever means- but COME ON!

Bush and Cheney and Rove out-LIED all the other administrations put together!

Are Americans memories really so short, or are we just in a constant state of denial now?

As a Libertarian, I feel its my DUTY to take issue with men who spit on our Constitution, lie to and ignore returning war vets, flaunt the laws we hold everyone accountable for, and-oh yeah-ruining our economy while they make millions!

I mean- COME ON!

At 11:04 AM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

Anon 9:27 AM,
Thank you for your DNC talking points and Goebbelesque persistance in re reciting the tired fabrication: "Bush lied people died".

This just in from that right wing rag the Los Angeles Times:

"In 2004, the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously approved a report acknowledging that it "did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments." The following year, the bipartisan Robb-Silberman report similarly found "no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."

Read the whole thing here.

The rest of your rant (also unsupported by any evidence) qualifies you for charter membership in the Ramsey Clark church of profound pronouncements.

At 11:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

and ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ know rants!

Thats great sir, the same senate that was complicit in the whole lying-fabricating evidence affair says "nobody did nuthin wrong!"

And you just say "Wow! really? I believe you! ha! another vast left-wing conspiracy!"

And all those repubs who say Bush knew? and lied anyway?

I guess they are all really closet liberals! huh?

But gee, maybe you are right- we should just ignore ex-press secretaries, staffers, generals IN the theatre, etc., and believe the liars!

At 11:56 AM, Blogger Joe Blow said...

Here's a better idea:

"Citing Iraq War, Renowned Attorney Vincent Bugliosi Seeks “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder”
Vincent Bugliosi is one of the most successful prosecutors in this country, with a record including twenty-one murder convictions without a single loss. With a new book, he outlines his case for the prosecution of George W. Bush for murder."

Read the book.

At 3:24 PM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

I read Vince's book Helter Skelter and slept with my service revolver under my pillow for several nights. He kind of lost it though after leaving the DA's office due to political ambitions. You had to be a Democrat to thrive in the LA DA's office, that is, until you began to outshine the boss. Evidence of Vince losing it became apparent especially with his defense of the two who hijacked a sailboat in the Pacific and murdered the owners. I would recommend Joe Wambaugh's earlier works such as New Centurions, The Choirboys, The Onion Field and The Blue Knight. His later works (after leaving the workplace) were, like Bugliosi's, duds. Sort of like Ramsey Clark? I used to drink occasionally with an LA prosecutor who made a pretty good case that Christ had it coming. Go figure.

At 6:28 PM, Blogger Greg said...

Mike Thompson has been against the war in Iraq from the beginning and voted against it originally. Humboldt County Democracy for America (DFA) and the Humboldt County Democratic Central Committee (HCDCC) presented Congressman Mike Thompson with a certificate of appreciation for his efforts to unearth the truth behind the “Downing Street Memo” and to understand the circumstances and impacts of the war in Iraq. At the time (2005) it was a courageous stand. Good to see him stand up again.

At 6:34 PM, Blogger Greg said...

Though (unless Nancy Pelosi has done a one-eighty on impeachment) the vote "for" the Kucinich resolution was probably a vote to let the measure die in committee. Pelosi has taken impeachment "off the table", apparently a judgement call based on her view of national priorities.

At 6:36 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Sorry, Greg. While I appreciate Thompson's vote, while I'm not sure I understand it, why do I feel you'd throw out a similar line if he'd voted against impeachment? Because you're a strong partisan, perhaps?

At 6:45 PM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

Leonidas wrote, "I read Vince's book Helter Skelter...".

As Joe Blow mentioned, Bugliosi recently wrote a book. That book supposedly makes a case for a case of murder against Bush.

Anybody but me listen to Bugliosi on Democracy Now the other day, making his case for the murder charge?

I didn't listen to more than fifteen minutes of it, but I'll have to say, I lost a lot of whatever respect I had for Bugliosi after listening to what I heard.

He made a lame case, for the most part (imo), based on trying to appeal to emotionalism.

One example: He went on and on about how, after Bush started the war, Bush played golf, laughed, and went about his life.

He seemed to be suggesting Bush was guilty of murder because he was doing the same thing hundreds of thousands of Americans did, at the same time, as well.

He came off to me, not so much as a nut case, but someone trying to sell a book based on hysteria. Easily done with my fellow Bush haters.

At 7:52 PM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

Mike's vote was purely eyewash for the sake of his progressive base in the 1st district. He's smart enough to know the Kucinich resolution is going nowhere. Anyway "Bushitler" will be gone in 6 months. Thank God!

At 7:15 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

BTW; Transcript of Bugliosi's short interview (I guess I did listen to nearly all of it) can be found by scrolling down at

At 7:53 AM, Blogger Greg said...

Fred, you are probably correct, I would have thrown out a similar line even if Mike had voted the other way. It's the truth.

At 1:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike loves that Home Depot you all are fighting.


At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyway "Bushitler" will be gone in 6 months. Thank God!

But...with all the other things Ive heard you say in these posts- I woulda thought you were a real bush supporter?
Its not possible that cons are actually able to change their minds now is it? This would be news....

Mike Thompson has always fought the good fight. As usual, simply because he has a 'D' in front of his name, and not 'R', the cons like to make up pathetic lies, even when they know nothing about the man.

The fact that so many on capitol hill are even considering impeachment should be a wake up call. But alas, 'American Idol' is on in a few minutes, so we'll do it tomorrow......

At 3:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He seemed to be suggesting Bush was guilty of murder because he was doing the same thing hundreds of thousands of Americans did, at the same time, as well."

maybe a lame defense, but the 'President' IS NOT hundreds of thousands of Americans. One of the reasons we even have the office is so the 'buck stops' somewhere.
(Sadly, George did not read that memo either)

No, as a vet, I have watched the man give every indication he could not care less for the people he sends away to fight and die. He is the slimiest weasel in DC, and THATS saying something!

He doesnt have to be a role-model, but he sure as hell could act like he's even aware of the suffering he has caused.

At 7:30 PM, Blogger ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

3:01 PM,

At 9:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:08 PM,OK. So now the pres must be the "self flagellator in chief" as well? Churchill should be vilified for consuming a quart of brandy and 5 cigars per day during WW II?

At 12:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:08 PM,OK. So now the pres must be the "self flagellator in chief" as well? Churchill should be vilified for consuming a quart of brandy and 5 cigars per day during WW II?

9:55 AM:

Nope. Just think a 'President' should be accountable for at least his OWN actions!

But, alas, I ask too much it seems....


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