Sunday, November 12, 2006

Low Turnout Hurts Lefties?

Some are suggesting that. I don't know. As has been brought up here and elsewhere, including this article from today's Times- Standard, we had a relatively heavy turnout on Tuesday. If everyone showed up to vote, would the tables been turned?

No way of saying that for sure, seems to me. Sure, voter registration in Humboldt leans to the Left, but I'm not so sure that would of changed the outcome, in and of itself. As we've seen here, just because someone leans left, doesn't mean they're going to march lock step to the voting booth on issues such as Marina Center.

As an aside, I was surprised to see Richard Salzman say the community was evenly divided on the issue. For some reason I would have expected him to come up with some kind of conspiratorial reason for the close vote totals.

20 Comments:

At 10:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't Patrick Riggs the Democratic Central Committee spokesman? Why are they quoting Salzman-is he still being allowed to write letters to the Times-Standard? Why?

What have they done with Patrick Riggs? Just because Salzman worked on a couple campaigns doesn't make him any kind of expert and without the actual numbers he's just blowing hot air-again.

 
At 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the low turn out helped the lefties! If not Glass would already be yesterdays news.

Salzman has control over Riggs?

 
At 10:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where's Patrick Riggs? That's the question. Is Richard now officially the spokesman for the demos and progressivs? That's what it seems like from the story.

 
At 10:57 AM, Anonymous mresquan said...

James Faulk failed to recognize the amount of absentee votes turned in.

 
At 11:19 AM, Blogger Fred said...

And we have yet to know which way the absentee ballots will go.

 
At 11:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voter turnout thing is much more of a science than anyone seems to realize, and Salzman is of course spinning rather than theorizing based on evidence. I wish the papers would ask one of our local experts at HSU after the election was certified and they had time to study everything.

 
At 1:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That TS article is a good example of what passes for reporting in Humboldt County. A story that hinges on demographics and voter statistics contains no independently verified demographics or voter statistics. Instead the newspaper let two political pundits talk their spin. I am dumber for having read the article.

 
At 1:58 PM, Anonymous mresquan said...

That was a pretty bad article. Agreed with 1:31,no verified demographics or voter statistics.Just blah.James Faulk needs to put an end to this bullypulpit thing and get to work on doing some real journalism.

 
At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just what qualifies you to have an opinion about that 1:58?

Journalism, I mean. Or anything else for that matter.

I admit, he's no Ed Bradley. Neither are you.

So why don't you (1:58) write the article and post it here? Bring on all that statistical detail and critical analysis...y'know, some real journalism.

 
At 2:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yes, if you have a brain capable of pointing out flaws, you therefore must be an expert able to product the product yourself. Uh huh. I guess we shouldn't have movie reviews or Consumer Reports or anything. No one should express an opinion about anything because 2:39 tells us so. Uh huh.

The article was simply a mouthpiece for two pundits. It provided no actual facts, just "facts" reported by pundits. That is called lazy journalism.

 
At 2:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strange thing is, I bet all of the facts needed are accessible with one or two phone calls. For all the hyped competition between these two newspapers, I just don't see it. They'r competing to see who can be slightly less lazy than the other one.

 
At 7:15 PM, Blogger mrsb814 said...

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At 7:17 PM, Blogger mrsb814 said...

James Faulk reminds me of sports commentators that have to yadda yadda yadda to fill up air time. 99% of the blather is worthless, meaningless BS and if they had to listen to themselves it would make them cringe.

It would be nice, for a change, to see some restraint in reporting the 'news' when there isn't any.

7:15 PM

 
At 10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Salzman has control over Riggs?"

No, actually there has been a bit of a split between Salzman and Local Solutions. Infighting. This is second hand information, so I don't know how accurate it is.

 
At 8:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My favorite journalistic moment to date has got to be John Driscoll's explication Monday of the elaborate process Times-Standard staffers went through trying to perform basic math. They called an HSU statistician! They used reams of paper. They performed complicated calculations late into the night, and in the end, Driscoll says? Their numbers weren't THAT wrong. Just somewhat wrong. Hopefully less wrong than their math election night when they announced Neely had won, and ideally not quite as wrong as their math when Somerville chastised county voters for their low voter turnout. Neither pronouncement factored in outstanding absentee and provisional ballots, although, in their defense, it is unlikely any HSU statisticians were on hand election night to point out that good math doesn't help when you don't know what you're talking about to start with. Maybe Driscoll will do better when we return to Standard Time. Oh. Wait. He got that one wrong too. Doh!

 
At 8:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sleazman is cooked. Toast. Done. He got his head handed to him then spins in the TS that the voter turnout was low. OK, it was low, for everyone.

The bottom line is people are running away for this dirt bag. He is the kiss of death for all associated with him.

The best thing for Sleazman is to slither away.

Sleazman, Mendocino County is calling.

 
At 10:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real " GADFLY" is the Times - Standard . There hasn't been a day this week that they haven't called me begging me to buy a subscription .

 
At 3:42 PM, Blogger Carol Ann said...

I like reading "The Bully Pulpit". I may not always agree, but I like the sense of humor. I like "The Fat Guy's", too, but that may morph into something else as they lose weight. Hey, when is that local movie going to be released, James? The movie starring Jack Hannahran?

 
At 6:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has Salzman taken over Riggs position? Or is he just speaking for liberals in general. Why didn't Faulk go to Riggs instead of Salzman? Only the Bully Pulpiteer knows for sure.

 
At 9:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they quoted Salzman because of his being paid by LaVallee. I was a little surprised about that, but I don't know why.

 

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