Sunday, December 10, 2006

Times- Standard Comments Heating Up

Well, the Times- Standard's attempts at running a blog seems to have fizzled, with only our very own Chris Crawford making an attempt at regular posting there. The other bloggers seem to have given it up. But, the addition of a comments section to the T-S web page seems to be working.

I thought I'd mentioned the comments being added to their web site before. Apparently Heraldo didn't catch it, as he comments on Tazman's blog. I was almost glad to see it mentioned again, as I'd forgotten about the comments myself.

Taking a look at the link Tazman provided, I'm not so sure I'll be wanting to keep going back. Much of what goes on in the comments on the T-S web site is the same sort of thing we get here in the Humboldt blogs. The blogs are plenty enough for me to handle.

Still, if some of you want to add your comments to those developing through today's article on the Honda shooting, check out the story and scroll down to the Comments link to post your own comments.

Have we created a monster, or what?

43 Comments:

At 10:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What comments? At the bottom of the article I see:

Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0005'
Invalid procedure call or argument: 'Right'

 
At 11:58 AM, Blogger Fred said...

At the bottom of the story, if you keep scrolling down, you'll see a link for "Comments" with the number of comments currently having been made in parethesis next to it.

Next to that should be a link for "Trackback", whatever that is.

If you're not seeing that, maybe you're using some weird browser or have your browser set not to accept certain things.

 
At 2:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ohhh, the comments are via Javascript from haloscan.com. I'd have never noticed because I keep Javascript turned off by default. What a dumb way to implement comments.

 
At 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, now I've digested the comments. Three words. Oh. My. God.

The TS is soiling itself, bringing itself down to the level of bloggers, probably in an attempt to be "interactive." Having a bunch of anonymous people rant, and (probably, eventually) slander newsmakers, won't sell newspapers. Sit back and wait for something serious to come out of those comments, perhaps a lawsuit, and ER will be sitting pretty as the responsible news organization... for simply doing nothing.

P.S. Blogger sucks big time. Posting comments produces an hourglass more often than not these days, requiring comments to be resubmitted again and again until one gets through.

 
At 3:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree - the TS is in risky territory on this one.

 
At 6:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cobb is NOT a Green

 
At 7:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To be fair we should keep in mind that the Times Standard is in competition with a free newspaper. The Eureka Reporter seems to be conducting itself much like a big box retail store, out to squash the competition.

 
At 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Nick for sharing information about Cobb, given that this discussion HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COBB. You are such a knob.

 
At 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Testy testy there Cobb, watch that blood pressure.

 
At 9:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Eureka Reporter seems to be conducting itself much like a big box retail store, out to squash the competition."

Gee, ya think so?

 
At 10:18 PM, Blogger Heraldo said...

I must be having the same problem as 2:11 because there is no "comment" option when I view the T-S.

 
At 12:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why yes, anyone annoyed by Nick's spam videos must be Cobb. Nice piece of logic there.

 
At 3:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo is classist. That's why he bashes homeless people, and David Cobb. This societal problem of the gap between rich and poor is exasperated by people such as Bravo. He says this kind of classist crap because he himself like Arkley has never known poverty. I wonder how many millions Bravo has stashed away in some foreign bank account like his mentor Rob Arkley?

 
At 9:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes Fred, the monster is unleashed, and the TS better hire a staffer just to deal with parsing the comments, its only a matter of days or hours before Barbara shows up there to start spewing more wild accounts of drug dealing and Santerian death cults.

 
At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish Blogger allowed you to ban pinheads like 6:00, 3:44 and 9:12.

 
At 10:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick Bravo is not a green himself.

 
At 10:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right! He's not! He's a Santerian witch doctor who as a member of the Arkley tri-lateral commission is bent on world domination, starting with humboldt county!

 
At 10:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Nick Bravo is not a Green then what is he?

 
At 10:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would the 10:21/26/27 person please just leave? Hell, you might even be Nick since he spends so much of his time turning local issues discussions back onto himself. Or maybe 10:21/26/27 is the Hoover-lover. Jesus when will Blogspot let Fred ban people?

 
At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 10;49, stop whinning! Fred is about FREE speech. Want censored speech? Then read another blog, or better yet create your own blog so you can exist in a vacuum of your own ideas just like dickie.

 
At 11:32 AM, Blogger Fred said...

That depends on what you define as Free Speech, 11:26.

 
At 11:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick's a Green, just a non-conformist one. Remember that pesky key value, Respect For Diversity?

 
At 11:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have ideas on how to get to the comments section at T-S if we have browser difficulties?

 
At 12:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Switch to Firefox you Microsoft bot!

 
At 12:58 PM, Blogger Fred said...

Are the people that can't see the comments all using Internet Explorer?

Does this link work for any of you?

 
At 1:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You probably have a security setting that prohibits off-site scripting, or certain other restrictions on the use of Javascript. This is a really dumb way for any site to implement user comments. I'm not going to reconfigure my security settings just to use one web site (let alone, just to read 5 people post 100 anonymous rants assailing each other).

 
At 7:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you sure the comments are still there? I have always been able to read them up until today. I haven't changed any settings on my computer either. Did the TS server crash after the comments reached 50? LMAO

 
At 7:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of heated-up comments in the Times-Standard,
Has anybody noticed the over-heated anti-law enforcement rant in today's T-S?

Sommerville, the big fraud, has the nerve to accuse Merl Harpham of "angry rhetoric." This colorful statement comes from the inventor of the front-page slam-job against the EPD. Sommerville is also the originator of the "we never correct errors" policy that has been in place ever since his Nibs replaced Winkler as Editor.

 
At 11:55 PM, Blogger Heraldo said...

Are the people that can't see the comments all using Internet Explorer?

I use Firefox and can't see the link to comments. But maybe it's because of what 2:11 said about having a computer set to automatically blocks javascript.

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger Heraldo said...

Has anybody noticed the over-heated anti-law enforcement rant in today's T-S?

It was actually quite reasonable.

 
At 9:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You call that reasonable?

It is embarrassing that the TS is allowing this. This is definitely NOT like the comments on line for the Press Democrat.

If the TS is going to run its online comments this way, it may as well just print libelous and anonymous letters to the editor.

Frankly, it is disgusting!

 
At 9:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heraldo said...
Has anybody noticed the over-heated anti-law enforcement rant in today's T-S?

It was actually quite reasonable.

11:56 PM

Heraldo, Only reasonable if you hadn't heard Harpham on TV News. Then you would be able to see how Sommerville is slanting and twisting Harpham's comments.

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess that not enough folks are reading their blog, because today they ran the blog in the editors column on the op ed page. Now that shows real commitement to the "rant" faction of our Community.

 
At 6:16 PM, Blogger Heraldo said...

Heraldo, Only reasonable if you hadn't heard Harpham on TV News. Then you would be able to see how Sommerville is slanting and twisting Harpham's comments.

Nate Rushton at the ER must be a real spin master, too, if that's the case.

The only inflammatory comments came during Harpham's lack of self control while complaining that residents "don't know what the hell they are talking about."

If the EPD wants people to know what the hell they are talking about, why did Frank Jager refuse to call the fire chief to the stand during the inquest into the Cheri Moore shooting to testify about her so-called threat to burn down the building, which is the stated reason for breaking down her door and shooting her into hamburger?

Who is the deputy sheriff who participated in the chase of Christopher Burgess and witnessed the shooting?

Who are the probation officers who were allegedly threatened by Burgess with a knife?

What did the three highly sought-after witnesses in the Burgess case tell the police?

As the SF Chronicle found, a major problem with police violence is that the community is often denied a full account of all the details of an investigation.

So hey, Mr. Harpham, we want to know what the hell YOU are talking about when it comes to these police shootings. If you decide to share, we're all ears.

 
At 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7:47 AM, Blogger Fred said...

I can understand your concerns, Heraldo. But, as far as giving out names of everyone involved, I can certainly understand the reluctance to give out names.

Just look at the vitriol directed against the officers whose names we do know that were involved. I'd be awfully reluctant to have witnesses and other participants dragged through the dirt as well.

 
At 9:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No kidding Fred.

Terry Liles is a kind and decent man. Have you been reading what is going on to him on Heraldo and on Buhne...it is disgusting. It is the mental instability of a few who are doing this and I agree with you Fred, because of the nuts, these witnesses names should not be released...they are not public figures and deserve their privacy.

 
At 11:49 AM, Blogger Heraldo said...

I'm deleting comments by "Officer Liles" just like I deleted the ones from "Kevin Hoover."

You have a point about people's vitriol, but it's not just directed at the police.

It's less important to release the names of the witnesses and sheriff than the testimony they provided. We don't have a full account of what happened in either the Moore or Burgess shootings.

 
At 11:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And perhaps it is best we don't Heraldo. Would you really get a kick out of it if the Sherrif's Officer who was on the scene of the Burgess incident (just because he was at the school picking up a kid)had his name published in the paper? Officer Liles has been taking the brunt of it. His Dad had death threats just for having his name in the phone book.

A Sherrif's Officer with a kid at school would be easy pickens-they would probably have to switch schools for that kid (what age kid gets picked up at school, 5-6 yeras old?) Yeah that makes a lot of sense to release all the records so bloggers everywhere can 'weigh in'.

Sometimes its just better to get the 'executive summary'.

 
At 3:15 PM, Anonymous Heraldo said...

Okay, let's have the "executive summary."

Obviously, it is terrible that Terry Liles' father got death threats (if that's true) just for having the same last name as the officer who shot Chris Burgess. Such actions do not lead to any kind of resolution, and I'm sure most residents would agree with that.

But the community has a right to know the details of what happened. That way we'll know "what the hell" we're talking about, as Murl Harpham said.

 
At 9:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Than go blame Paul, Heraldo.

The same with the Cheri Moore case.

Since Paulie can't and won't tell you demand that this go to the AG for a decision.


But gee....isn't that what Dikeman demanded in May when he said that Paul had made this political and couldn't make a decision for the community?

oh yeah it was...and Dikeman demanded that it be turned over to the AG also.

So, Heraldo...what do you think about Dikemans foresight now. Paul did exactly what he predicted and we are all now screaming for all the damn investigations to be turned over to the AG.

Come back at me buddy...I have lots more to say.

 
At 10:15 AM, Blogger Heraldo said...

As I've previously stated, the Moore case should go to the AG.

 
At 11:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the death-threat like comments were made on your blog, heraldo, around Halloween. I could be wrong. While they may seem like the normal ebb and flow of "blog" comments to us, the chance that they might be more than that, given the climate of hysteria that had shipped up over the Burgess incident, you can imagine that those comments were taken seriously. It would be irresponsible to do anything less.

 

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