New Study: Solar Power Dangerous
A new study has found solar power not only converts sun rays into electricity but is also draining the sun's energy from it. Oh, NO!
posted by Fred Mangels @ 6:47 AM
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Something's not computing here. Trees and all plants are solar collectors, green being the most universal color absorber of the spectrum for collecting sunlight through the day. There have been eons where greenery covered most all of the land in times of low mountain building and broad plains, swamps, and jungle forests. How come they didn't seem to "drain the sun"?
Because solar panels are man made, Steven. Duh?
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How about a post on street trees?
You gotta love oil companies
“Solar panels destroying the sun could potentially be the worst man-made climate disaster in the history of the world, and Halliburton will not be taking part in that,” the company stated in a press release issued Friday morning. “It’s obvious, based on the findings of this neutral scientific research group, that humans needs to become more dependent on fossil fuels like oil and coal, not less. Because these so-called `green technologies’ are far more dangerous to the Earth than any hydrofracking operation or deep-water drilling station. What good is clean air when our very sun is no longer functional?”
I've already done a few posts on street trees. The following url with take you the search results:
http://tinyurl.com/lgaoc69
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Report
I'm not sure everyone here gets this.
Let's do an informal survey, don't be shy, most people don't understand basic things about the physical world around us.
How many people thought this could be a real article and not a spoof when they read the first sentence in Fred's post?
Ha Ha!! Love it!!
liberaljon:
You & I know its a 'spoof', but
to Fox 'news' and its faithful, its full on panic mode coverage for the next 2 weeks!
AND it will be Obamas fault!
Rose, I'm really glad you can laugh at yourself. I like to have a self-depricating humor too.
This spoof is most likely based on this story*. It's about an anti-science push in Wyoming based on influence huge revenue generating and extremely influential big coal interests in Wyoming.
*
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/19/us/science-standards-divide-a-state-built-on-coal-and-oil.html?_r=0
From the article...
"Many here and elsewhere consider that liberal dogma rather than scientific consensus and want their children to hear it as theory rather than fact. What is more, some Wyoming lawmakers say, such teaching is a threat to the state’s economic engine."
Also, this..."Sitting in the headquarters of the Wyoming Liberty Group, Susan Gore, founder of the conservative think tank, said new national science standards for schools were a form of “coercion,” adding, “I don’t think government should have anything to do with education.”" (Ms. Gore reminds me of someone I like in HumCo)
And this..."“We question this whole idea of standards reform and the whole idea of nationalized standards,” said Amy Edmonds, policy analyst at the Wyoming Liberty Group. “We believe at the heart that it continues to take away parental choice.”"
Rose and Fred, should government have anything to do with education? What about the Federal Government?
This article is a jab at those who would like market forces to dictate the spin place on scientific "theories" (in scientific terms) or facts (in common parlance).
There is no doubt and accelerated climate change is underway - and it's cause by humans. Oh, and evolution is a fact too. Just for the record.
"There is no doubt and accelerated climate change is underway - and it's cause by humans."
There is plenty of doubt as to what effect humans have on climate, assuming they have any effect at all. It's just not reported by the mainstream media.
As far as the spoof article, we enjoy it because it reminds us of the stuff we hear almost daily from hysterical environmentalists.
Should the feds be involved in education? If they should be, certainly not to the extent that they are now. Should the state? Same thing.
It's been said that this country had much higher literacy rate before government got involved in education.
"There is plenty of doubt as to what effect humans have on climate, assuming they have any effect at all. It's just not reported by the mainstream media. "
Isn't it odd though that the spoof you re-blogged is on overzealous conservatives free marketeers invading science class and not the environmentalists?
Could this be the epiphany moment? No, probably not. I'll keep trying.
Also ..." this country had much higher literacy rate before government got involved in education"
That was a golden 9 years then!
"Even before the Constitution was established, the Land Ordinance of 1785 and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 included responsibilities of the nation for an education system. Education has long been considered a national concern by the federal government. Through federal action, education has been encouraged and financially supported from the first Northwest Ordinance in 1785 to the present. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution granted Congress the power to lay and collect taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States. It is under this “general welfare” clause that the federal government has assumed the power to initiate educational activity in its own right and to participate jointly with states, agencies and individuals in educational activities."
From "http://www.lwv.org/content/history-federal-government-public-education-where-have-we-been-and-how-did-we-get-here"
Not so much, according to this. Compulsory education, at least as far as having the state involved, didn't start until the 1800s.
http://tinyurl.com/yjgwrwn
Fred, your answer to my query about the difference between plants and artificial solar collectors doesn't address the point that plants solar collection is gigantic compared to human efforts and it would be "draining the sun" already. Some day science will have a method for determining past solar ray bombardment to earth from previous eons like they can tell magnetic polarities.
So, Fred. You support circa 1980 land use planning and circa 1850 education standards. Many people would agree with you because they do not appreciate having to teach that darn evolution (or climate change) the scientists keep going on about. -or- they say sure, teach evolution, but treat it as a theory along other theories like intelligent design.
Standards, federal, are important if you want to give all the children of our country the best shot at a world class curriculum. Not just those students with the money to attend a private school.
Did you notice the name of the source of you info? Alliance for the separation do school and state. Might they be a little biased and their information a little one sided? Aren't they selling an opinion, not reporting information disinterestedly?
The bottom line Fred.
The are people who would like the current and future electorate to be a little confused about specific realities of our physical world for one reason or another. They often try to take this battle to the schools. ( I know what you are thinking, hypocrite)
The problem is, we do need better schooling because many people do believe that a solar panel could suck energy out of the sun imperiling the sun if that is what was written in a trusted source.
"Might they be a little biased and their information a little one sided?"
Might the same be said of you?
Yes, but I endeavor to get my information from disinterested sources. BBC, NYT, etc. I know, I know, NYT = liberal.
I completely agree with you. I really like this article. It contains a lot of useful information. I can set up my new idea from this post. It
LOL, that line had me laughing. So, now we are draining the Sun :-)
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