Sunday, July 05, 2015

Vaxxer Debunked?

This commentary in Epic Times claims the doctor saying Jim Carrey's arguments have been debunked has been debunked himself. I've read this twice and I'm not seeing it, at least not yet. Maybe it's in Part 2?

Jim Carrey claims he's not opposed to vaccines, just the thermosol used as preservatives. The doctor claims that makes you an anti- vaxxer and you can't be pro- vaccine but against the preservative used in it (why not?). What a waste of an argument. Quibbling over whether someone is anti- vax, or not. That's not debunking anything.

No debunking I can find in the rest of the article, either. I get the impression the writer thinks there is. He goes on to address studies, some of which would be considered anti- vax and those pro- vax. The doctor has suggested his studies are the good ones. The writer seems to claim others are just as valid. 

Who is to decide? We see this same sort of thing time and again when arguing GMOs, fluoride, global warming and on and on.

That people see "science" differently is good to point out, but not a debunking. All it does is illustrate something I've pointed out here more than once: "Science" nowadays is for the most part based on ideology (and politics). Often the studies themselves, but more importantly what studies someone deems valid. 

Some are going to believe studies showing vaccination can cause autism. Some are going to believe ones that show it doesn't. Which ones they accept is based on their world view, or ideology. I don't see pointing that out as debunking anything.


At 10:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who is to decide? "

Smallpox. Polio.

You're old enough to know the answer Fred. We both grew up when those were things to be feared.

The measles, mumps, whooping cough and chickenpox stuff rarely killed any of us but isn't it better that kids today don't have to go through that crap?

At 10:36 AM, Blogger Fred Mangels said...

I'm referring to who decided what science to believe.

At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The studies showed? Showed what? Unless youre gonna bring in the data. Pribably better to say "correlations", than 'proved,' or 'showed'. Also, is "believe" the right word, or "trust"?

Also, please define fear as you wrote it. I thought the real fear was that we created aids during the polio vaccine.

See documentary, "The Origin of Aids"

At 8:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with blog posts like this is that their mere existence suggests there isn't a consensus, let alone an overwhelming consensus, in the scientific community. Even Autism Speaks, the largest autism advocacy group in the US, urges parents to get their kids fully vaccinated. This is an organization that spent large sums of money in the past funding research seeking a link between autism and vaccines. It, too, has come to its senses.


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