June Ballot: Prop 50
Information here on the one ballot initiative that will be on the primary election ballot in June. What Prop 50 does is suspend pay for legislators who are suspended from duties. As it is now, they can be suspended yet still draw salary which amounts to a paid vacation.
I'm still not sure what to think of this one. I don't like pay being suspended when a legislator has only been accused, not convicted, of wrong doing. There's also the possibility, as the article points out, that this rule could be used as retribution for legislators that don't go along with the majority, but I suppose that possibility already exists to some extent.
This could be one where I toss the coin to vote.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 7:30 AM
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12 Comments:
Valid points against it. The language needs to change to Forfeit integrity, forfeit wages & pension. No legislator, no official, shall be treated differently from citizens. You make the law, you live by the law.
That reminds me, didn't they recently vote to exempt themselves from all California gun control laws? Tyranny at its finest.
The only thing on short thought is that "Fred is right" when it comes to innocent until proven guilty but that "guilt" is no different than HOJ being assaulted and battered, but that the legal process comes after, so guilt is just "legally delayed".
Personally, the salaries are too high. Salaries should be based upon " economic viability".......pay goes up and down, just like the fluctuations in the stock market, the free market, and state/local revenue surplus or debt.
In good times, better pay. In bad times, less pay.
The increaseable flat rate pension, pay, perk salary atmosphere is a votable fraud by conspirators looking to gain a better financial lifestyle as three piece suit types would who can't work harder labor because they won't as they seem to pontificate their own diety as if they are above everyone else.
Note: Off topic Fred, but Governor Moonbeam just made permanent those water restrictions implemented 2 years ago, even though conservation was at 25% over last year.
Brown is setting up Californians through......Executive Orders, just like Obama......difference is really shocking in that Brown has a full majority of liberals in both the state house and Senate.........so it is not a question of "a do nothing congress", but a question of dictatorship.
Lawmakers did not push this, but Brown site did.
HOJ hopes Jerry Brown gets assassinated.
"Governor Moonbeam just made permanent those water restrictions implemented 2 years ago, even though conservation was at 25% over last year."
So much for claims of "temporary". And remember, Arcata, despite us having plenty of water up here, said people should still conserve water since electricity is used to pump it. Thus water conservation = electricity conservation. They'll always find an excuse.
HOJ is pathetic.
Why, cuz its true Moonbeam's political career needs to be assassinated (as Trump would respond afyer the initial statement).
So, apparently, Trumpism worked and does draw out interest, negative, positive, no comment, etc....
Thank You Julie for playing.
True, true.
Maybe they could be paid while suspended with an agreement to pay the money back if convicted.
Fred, congratulations on getting 19,000 views!
It appears it is all about big businesses and agriculture needi g more and more and more water.
So, restrict non business uses because they don't generate much if any in 1) taxes or profit and 2) taxes on profit
Brown is a slimeball politician. Water useis a "natural right".
HOJ should be able and shall continue using how ever much water is necessary with little waste.
How dare a government dictator and state agencies take away an individual's natural right to water uses as a way to give power to unnatural businesses of greed.
Brown's actions as a governing dictator is another "sign" that America is near its final days as "what once used to be".
Force upon society higher costs.
Higher costs means more bills.
More bills = more money needed
More money needed = more employment needed
More employment needed = demand on jobs
Demand on jobs = Job Supply must be sufficient
Sufficient job supply = societal bills get paid
Now, the problem is that America has been usurped for over 100 years by industry; whereas, 100 years ago, Iiving off the land was not leaving the homestead for an hourly wage or salary, a mortgage, loans, or spending on a service not necessary.
America has been transformed into service rats, not self sustaining entrepenuer who sell to the rest of the world.
Hunter gatherer/ forager versus industrial servicing and wants, not needs = a convoluted American society.
Calif will soon be just like Venezuela, the progressives dream. Hide your cats & dogs!
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