Yet Another PAC
Doesn't the Eureka Civic Association have a nice ring to it? It sounds so...well...CIVIC! That's the latest Political Action Committee Eureka's left wingers have formed. Do we really need yet another PAC in this county? Oh well. Each to their own.
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I'm suffering from a gnarly cold or flu today. It's been with me for a couple days now. Think it might be starting to go away. Posting will be light, on this end, depending on how I end up feeling as the day goes on.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 8:33 AM
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Their website is one nearly blank white page with a couple small paragraphs and a way to send money. I guess this David Ogden is an IRV proponent and has been around around Eureka 15 years or so. Anyone know anything else about him. Sounds from "his" endorsements, he's just another far lefty. It's amazing what press releases the T-S will uncritically print.
Well, if there's no information, how could they be critical?
Since there is no information what should be warning right there. For a couple bucks, anyone can set up a website and sendout a press release.
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German register too...
And I could have swore that paypal had, or used to have something about not allowing this kind of thing. And remember, Paypal is part of eBay, and doesn't follow your creditcard chargeback rules. www.paypalsucks.com
From what I hear, Morsemedia.net is the server handling all the Local Solution slate of candidates websites.
All but one... but all use CSL
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Go local.
Seems that Morsemedia has a contract with https://joker.com/, which leads back to CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH. Which means that Morsemedia isn't just hosting these sites, but has done the complete set-up and HTML work. I'd also like to point out that some of these sites use paypal, which is a large faceless corp (owned by eBay) and the HTML headers seems to follow each other in a pattern.
It's pretty impressive how a group of 15-20 people can play at having such a large following.
Holy cow.
Morse is only hosting the sites.
PayPal is about the only easy cheap way to set up online payments. They pretty much own that space.
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.r. - tell me how many interent companies aren't faceless?
Is Mike Buettner tied in with Salzman or Local Solutions?
Dunno - but Moss Bittner is
Is Mike Buettner tied in with Moss Bittner?
Who is bitman? Bittner or Buettner
Separated at birth. Bitman is Batman's little brother (some suspect he is his son concevied by Salzman).
Who is David Stoddard? Is he tied in with Crisp Crawford?
What is concevied?
What is is?
Flemming nailed Neely in the debate. Bye bye Bonnie.
I think we can all see that Mike Buettner is hosting all the websites for the "slate" of radical candidates.
Take it a step further and venture a guess that the "slate" all purchased their campaign signs from the same vendor?
Next ask if their phone banks are all being done at the same location and organized by the same people?
In case you haven't figured it out yet, the radical extremists "slate" are running against the Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Moderates and anyone else who gets in their way.
Hmm, they must be learning from rightwing extremists.
"Clean Up Eureka" is Arkley
"Eureka Coalition for Jobs" is Arkley
"HELP" is Arkley
"Sunshine" is Arkley
"Eureka Reporter" belongs to Arkley
Jeff Leonard belongs to Arkley
Mike Jones belongs to Arkley
Virginia Base-Jackson belongs to Arkley
Nancy Phlegmming belongs to Arkley
golly, didn't buettner offer to help out maria? i can see why that didnt happen now.
Neely is on the R.C.A.A. bringing white trash shelters into , Eureka along with Lavalee , Smith , Rodini , Geist and the others . This election let's get someone new . I am voting for Tish and Droz . Oh yeah and supervisor goes to , Flemming . I know she's the same old but , we ain't got no choice . Alex
If all these council candidates belong to Arkley why do they all have to work for a living?
Notice that 8:27 only defaces the names of the women candidates?
I couldn't think of a way to deface the names of the men candidates. Any ideas?
Notice that 9:11 is a disaster.
Notice that 9:11 is a disaster.
golly, didn't buettner offer to help out maria? i can see why that didnt happen now.
are you saying Mike got some of those same nasty phone calls from Salzman to pressure him out of supporting Maria Hershey?
Notice that 9:11 is a disaster.
And he even called Flemming "the same old but"!
Fred, you better delete that comment if you don't want a lawsuit!
"Flemming nailed Neely in the debate. Bye bye Bonnie.
11:45 PM"
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Don't count your chickens yet.
Bonnie has good relations with most of her consituents. She treats people respectfully.
Nancy Flemming, on the other hand, is rude to people she feels are her social or financial inferiors. And she thinks she is better than MOST people.
Hey , " Alex " , up there at 9 : 11 a . m.
How did all you " Droz ! " supporters learn to punctuate in exactly same , wrong way ?
I mean , I knew Droz had " style " , but I didn ' t know he had a " book of style " !
Hank Sims said...
Hey , " Alex " , up there at 9 : 11 a . m.
How did all you " Droz ! " supporters learn to punctuate in exactly same , wrong way ?
I mean , I knew Droz had " style " , but I didn ' t know he had a " book of style " !
Maybe they all went to Eureka High School?
Flemming will get things done.
Sure she is a bulldog who gets down to business. When that happens, you sometimes make enemies. This is not a time to sit around embracing each other in circle meditation and singing "Where Have All The Flowers Gone".
We need to get things done. No, not for the "aristocracy" as many of you fear. But for the working class, common, everyday families. Leaders from a business background tend to have a visionary sense that drives an economy and provides for a community by creating jobs. And not Americorps seasonal jobs eradicating a few acres of pampas grass and building interpretive signs for trails that no one walks on.
You can't always have committee meeting after committee meeting after committee meeting after committee meeting after committee meeting to finally release a study
that says we should throw up our hands in fear of reprisal from special interest groups who make their money off of frivilous lawsuits. That, after spending a ridiculous amount of money that went into binders filled with pie charts and pretty PowerPoint presentations.
We need to put common people to work, offer them affordable housing while keeping the temptations of making money through elicit means away from their door.
A vote for Nancy Flemming is a start.
(Whew, I sure could use a Kombucha elixir right about now. That should cleanse my system of these prevailing right wing toxins.)
Anonymous 8:27 AM said...
Jeff Leonard belongs to Arkley
Mike Jones belongs to Arkley
Virginia Base-Jackson belongs to Arkley
Nancy Phlegmming belongs to Arkley
Let the laughter begin.
Leonard belongs to no one. He's truly an independent.
Jones belongs to his wife.
Bass belongs to Eureka.
Flemming does NOT belong to Pierson or the Indian casinos, unlike her opponent.
We'll all find out in three days that the Arkley's have contributed a grand total of $0 to the above candidates.
Want to venture a guess how much Bill Pierson has contributed to the "slate"?
Bill Pierson has already contributed $1,000 to LaVallee and $8,590 to Bonnie and that's only through May 2006.
Check the 460s for Pierson and Indian casino contribution updates on Friday.
Bill's got my business.
How did all you " Droz ! " supporters learn to punctuate in exactly same , wrong way ?
Hey , gimme a break ! It 's hard to type , and hiccup , at the same time ! Ale x
(Whew, I sure could use a Kombucha elixir right about now. That should cleanse my system of these prevailing right wing toxins.)
The best cleansing cure for your prevailing right-wing toxins is a cannabinoid elixir of the finest natural herb.
Saw Droz the the council meeting last night. Can that man rant or what.
I gotta give him a point for wanting to put an end to the pledge of allegiance in council chambers.If I remember his rant correctly,he said that would be one of his first priorities as mayor.There certainly is no separation of church and state in that room.A prayer leading into the pledge is innertwining church and state.As an atheist it's fairly offensive,but I live with it.And I don't say the pledge during wartime(and under god ever).I certainly wouldn't object to seeing it go.Council chambers are for solving community issues,not glorifying our country,or any god.
I gotta give him a point for wanting to put an end to the pledge of allegiance in council chambers.
I'd give him ten points! If he wants that he can't be all bad. At least he's not a mental sheep.
Mr. Esquan, now you're punctuating like an anti-Droz. What does this signify?
Following the great "track/tract" political divide, I'm looking forward to the day -- can't be too far off, now -- when an extra space before the comma or the lack of a space after it become a escutcheon of your particular political faction.
mresquan wrote: "I gotta give him a point for wanting to put an end to the pledge of allegiance in council chambers.".
Agreed, although, despite being an agnostic, I don't really care about the God thing. I just don't like the idea of kids (or anyone else) being indoctrinated with an allegiance to The State.
I've never understood the conservatives who support the Pledge, sometimes even going so far to suggest it be REQUIRED that kids recite it at school each day. That, and considering the guy who came up with the idea, Frances Bellamy, seems to be a authoritarian- socialist type, you'd think they'd distance themselves from it.
Interesting read on Wikipedia about the pledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
One thing new to me was busting the nazi salute rumor, assuming it's true. I'd often heard that kids were required to give a Roman Salute- same as the Nazi salute- when reciting the Pledge back in the days of old.
Apparently the salute used was a bit different, with the palm of the hand facing upwards, rather than down. Made good propaganda against the Pledge, though. You'll see the widely distributed picture of the kids doing it on Wikipedia. I always assumed it was a Nazi salute. Looking at it now, I still can't tell which way the palm of the hand is.
Jerry's Greatest Hits Vol. I
You're an agnostic and against kids being forced to say the pledge of allegiance? That's very cool, Fred! Hmm, there's more to you than meets the eye!
Following the great "track/tract" political divide, I'm looking forward to the day -- can't be too far off, now -- when an extra space before the comma or the lack of a space after it become a escutcheon of your particular political faction.
What fun! Then we can throw our opponents into confusion by calling it the Balloon Trackt , and,by punctuating unpredictably !
2:07 wrote, "You're an agnostic and against kids being forced to say the pledge of allegiance? That's very cool,..".
I don't get the connection between being religiously agnostic and being opposed to the Pledge. Is there a reason an atheist or agnostic should be a supporter of the Pledge?
Oh, you do seem to specify "forced to say the the pledge". Is forced the important part of what you're saying?
Yes, I wasn't thinking of any connection. I just think both things are cool. Being an agnostic signifies a certain degree of intellectual honesty. And being against forcing kids to say the pledge shows a real commitment to social freedom. That's cool!
Oh how nice of you. I guess it is true then: To know me is to love me?
No doubt! But to be ruthlessly honest, I think that to really know anybody is to both love them and hate them. But probably to love them mostly, if you look deeply enough.
So you are against the "PLedge" to our country. How about when our Council is sworn in, or the Govenor, or the President...should they have to take an oath, or pledge to honor our Constitution? And while we're at it why have a Constitution which embody laws that we are all constrained with, but entitled to share the benifits of?
For those who serve in our Military, National Gaurd, or Law Enforment, should they have to pledge to protect us? And how would we feel if these folks simply were hired to do the right thing, but never had to take the "pledge"?
We all have the right to or not to do any of pledging or swearing to, but how would we feel if the jury we were depending on would not feel that they were "Sworn" or pledged to follow our laws and the more basically the moral and ethical laws that folks have died to perserve for us? It seems to me the those who pledge to uphold our laws and the Constitution of our Country are the ones I would want sitting on my jury, if the occasion arose.
"Pledging" to uphold laws and "pledging" allegiance to a country are two different things.And do you think making the "pledge"really prevents any lying?If anything it only sequesters it.
Excellent points! 3:43 you're really flying off the handle there. We were talking about not forcing children to make the pledge of allegiance. And then you try to equate that with judges and military and governors and juries not making oaths.
Right on the money, esquan. Pledges for the Constitution, and such, mean nothing now. Just look at what the federal and state governments are doing now.
Any Pledges people do now are more of an act of office, with no consequences for violating the Pledge.
3:43: Do you think young people should be indoctrinated, early on, with an allegiance to The State? I don't think they should. Enough said.
used to be i agreed with that statement, fred, but given what we are seeing now with the hate america first indoctrination, i have changed my mind. we are the greatest country on earth, and there is nothing wrong with being proud of it, and yes, saying we pledge our allegiance to that which our country stands for, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the pursuit of happiness, the lack of a class system, the ability to achieve whatever we reach for. we need these small things that hold us together.
IMHO
Do you believe in Santa Claus too? And the tooth fairy?
343 says...
Well let's see, "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America"... would you rather teach the children to respect something else? Maybe their ipod, mtv, or someone else's flag? It seems like lots of folks have died for their belief in the Flag and all it represents...
"to the republic for which it stands" we live in a republic not a democracy, and maybe children (and their parents)should understand the difference. Our responsibility to elect those who have integrity of purpose, and hold to our mores is our individual responsibility. If our pledges are meaningless, how did they ever become a part of our great nation, and if we did not have a respect for our system of laws and values, what is left...oh I forgot...myspace, blogs, and ipods...
Or we could just let them grow up and respect nothing, but the good life and the bottom line.
"One Nation under God"...I have to say that part bothers me, and I remember when it was added...but in my heart I substitute the "God" part with "truth", and it works for me...'
"indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"...is it not the most important phrase of all? Without our membership and participation to keep our Nation whole, our liberty and justice will surely become the stuff of remembrance...343
We may have a great nation and all that good crap but how can we NOT elect liars and cheats and sodomists and pedophiles and people who hide their stolen loot in the freezer? Politics and the people who are stoopid enough to engage themselves oh I lost my train of thought!
Its time to clean up some messes and we have to vote for a few good people who want to get their fingernails dirty and take on some projects that will have lasting impact. Think. Vote. Make your kids Vote.
hey arnonomous???who are you were do you live jackass
11:07 who RU calling arnonomous???
that'd make a good new name arnonomousoulini
Are all of these PACs easy ways for Rich people, Arkley - Pierson - Salzman - whoever to funnel money to candidates and causes they endorse under the radar?
PACs - Pedophile Action Committees
Hey, don't be knocking Loco Solutions like that!
Hey Fred, you don't have to put up with this shit-delete these bums!
The Neely - Bass - Jackson regime has fouled up Eureka along with The Times - Standard for years . They are all part of the R.C.A.A. and rake in millions every year to bring in more ex - felons and drug rehabbers into , Eureka . They want to dominate , Eureka and won't allow anyone to stand in their way . They put poor Jerry Droz behind Bass intentionally on the front page . Droz wants the people to run things . They want themselves to rule the City along with the R.C.A.A. Hmmmmmmm , that's not exactly what i would call freedom of the press now is it ?
I am not pledging my allegiance to this Country until we pull out of Iraq and they give us our rights and freedoms back . Our right to choose threw the freedom of the election process . They took 215 away from us although we the people voted for it . More and more of our freedoms are being taken away . The Country should not run this City or its people . The people should run this City and Country .
The government gives millions to the R.C.A.A. and they want domination over , Eureka . NO OTHER WAY !
More ranting as you call it.......Jerry Droz did not accept any bribe money from anyone to be persuaded or coerced by anyone . His highest priorities are to serve you the people , not some hardware store or developer .Your right...The Times - Standard does not want him to win and are trying everything to make him loose . Your right again , they are all trying to dominate Eureka so they can get paid to bring in more free housing for ex - felons .
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