Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Menzies Speaks for Independent Businesses

Cute little My Word piece by Scott Menzies in the Times- Standard this morning. He's asking everyone to shop local. Scott, I'm sure most will remember, has been involved in a number of local political projects, the first of which that comes to mind is Instant Runoff Voting.

Seems to me he used to post a comment or two here way back when I first started this blog. Don't know if he still comes here, or not.

Being a left- leaning political guy I guess it should come as no surprise that he's now a co- coordinator of the Humboldt County Independent Business Alliance. Didn't Scott used to work in some capacity as HSU? Is he still there or did he get some other job?

I don't know but I would find it rather odd if the only two people I've seen represent the Independent Business Alliance- the other being Kaitlin Sopoci- Belknap- don't own a business or work in the private sector.

What'cha doing now, Scott?


At 9:16 AM, Blogger "Bob" said...

Scott's a grad student working on his thesis. Read more about him and HumIBA (and holiday commerce in general) in this week's Journal cover story, Black Friday, just posted - a day early due to T-Day.

At 9:25 AM, Blogger Fred said...

Thanks for the heads up, Bob.

At 9:47 AM, Blogger Rose said...

Can we PLEASE stop pretending that these are separate groups!? HumIBA is DUHC is Measure T is Kaitlin/Cobb/DUHC/Humboldt Coalition for Community Rights.

They dropped all pretense in the recent testimony before the Board of Sups.

There's no reason to play into this - there is no reason for reporters to print press releases from these pretend groups without identifying exactly who and what it is.

What's the reason for creating a new group for every one of your endeavors? To make it look like you are bigger than you are. To avoid negative associations with who you are.

And it is all a very very small little pool of players.

At 9:49 AM, Blogger Rose said...

And, btw, it Menzies is HumIBA, that brings to at least 5 the number of people in the "group" testifying before the BOS that actually WORK FOR/WITH Cobb - Cobb, Kaitlin, Megan, Jon Zaglin and Menzies....

Zaglin writes Op-Eds without identifying his association.

At 10:41 AM, Blogger mresquan said...

Know a few right winger business owners who have joined the IBA,obviously they see something that you don't.Curious to know if you have really looked at what they are doing.

At 1:41 PM, Blogger Stephen said...

Well, does anyone have to look, Mark, given the people involved? It's not as if anyone else who counters the anti-Arkley, anti-Big Box Progressive gangsters, will ever have a say in any organizational front for these people.

At least I can post this here on Fred's blog where debate is still possible, unlike the political blogs of Progs like Heraldo with Eric following suit in the destruction of honest debate and censorship of opposing views. Progressive hypocrites tout "democracy" but are the first to deny democratic rights to Humboldt citizens and the only ones afraid to face criticism for their actions. No responsibility for public review at the core of Progressive activism.

At 5:41 PM, Blogger Stephen said...

This isn't new, btw. Back before they used the word "Progressive" to identify their anti-corporate agenda, they were "environmental activists" and like they do today on their favorite blogs they gang up on anyone who does not tow the Party line, as I did not.

The Trees Foundation held a community meeting regarding Pacific Lumber Co. at the MCC and when I tried to speak about the Bear River's Heartlands Project, I was grabbed and shoved to get me off stage by one zealous member of the Trees presentation group. If not for members of the audience demanding that I be allowed to speak, I would have had the same treatment happen to me that you all see at these large conventions when protesters are forcibly removed by the cops.

Our local self-appoint Thought Police are so afraid of democracy in action they have to run to the tools of fascist repression, the first one being Censorship of opposing points of view, next banishment from any organization they control, next imprisonment when they get control of the legal system. Then the bullet in the head when they gain control of the army.

Local Progressive activist blogs are at the 1st and 2nd Stages of fascist repression now. Most of you who know me know that when Local Solutions was directly tied to the HCDCC with Mr. Riggs at the helm, they too censored any opposition to their Party agenda which we all know was not Democratic Party at all, but another Green Party taking over the HCDCC making it virtually indistinguishable from the Greens and quite a bit different from mainstream Democratic concerns, e.g joining in the Progressive activists' war against Palco, Arkley, and the economic concerns of mainstream Democrats in Humboldt County.

Progressive censorship:
Rigg's prohibited this Democrat from speaking at the HCDCC when he was presiding over it. Heraldo started censoring my posts last year and banned me from posting, now Eric is following suit. What's next? Stage 3?

At 6:17 PM, Blogger Fred said...

Stephen: You need to learn to make your comments short, and more to the point. You ramble on too much.

Note that your last two comments took up as much space as the five comments before yours. That's actually an improvement from what was happening on Eric's blog.

At 3:19 AM, Blogger Stephen said...

Fred. I've got a lot of information to give to the community and it cannot be told in sound-bite form so popular on blogs. I don't think that way. Sorry.

Have a happy thanksgiving. And remove me if you too find my posting community history or my opinions offensive. I am getting really tired of blog owners telling blog viewers how and what they can say.

At 9:43 AM, Blogger Stephen said...

Sorry, Fred, but your timing wasn't the best for that suggestion. You do have a happy Thanksgiving and I appreciate your advice somewhere underneath my current tiff with certain blog censors.

At 1:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HumIBA is not elected, but run by an appointed Steering Committee consisting of Menzies and the rest of the DUHCs trying to boss the small busnesses around. Well you jokers aren't getting a dime out of me! At least the Chamber gives me a vote on who gets elected to their Board!

At 11:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone should call KHSU and complain. David Cobb is pulling the same tricks there with his show that got him canned from the columnist gig at the times-standard. you know he's making money off this IBA somehow.

At 11:57 AM, Blogger mresquan said...

"you know he's making money off this IBA somehow."

And how is he?I'd like to know as I know some who have vested with them.

"David Cobb is pulling the same tricks there with his show that got him canned from the columnist gig at the times-standard."
Any proof?And was Leo canned as well?

At 3:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

David endlessly promoted the organizations he has domination of, from the shrunken Humboldt Green Party to the IBA to the DUHC to the CCP to the HCCR, all of which just happen to hold many or most of their meetings at his own residence. It's just unbelievable how no one else tries to pull these scams in this community, but David Cobb and his "see no evil" apologist Mark "mresquan" Konkler can be so shameless.

Other IBA groups are run by their own small business members, why is HumIBA so hostile to democracy? Must have something to do with being run out of the "democracy unlimited" house.

At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone else notice how Bob Doran absolutely refuses to even pretend to be a journalist on this one, has no questions for a single critic of Cobb/DUHC/HumIBA on his so-called "news story" about them in the Journal?

Fact is, other IBA organizations are run by their small business members. Not HumIBA. Is it really so difficult for such a "serious" news weekly to ask such a simple question? Or is being one-sided in favor of Cobb the new "fair and balanced" of this Foxish rag?

At 9:43 AM, Blogger mresquan said...

"Not HumIBA. Is it really so difficult for such a "serious" news weekly to ask such a simple question? "
Well perhaps the business owners vested in HumIBA are content with how the local group desires to run things,or else they wouldn't have joined in the first place.What is undemocratic about that?Do local business owners not have a right to that stance in your view?
And will I or any other readers ever get any actual evidence and proof shown here where David and whoever you disapprove of are skimming from the top?

At 11:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DUHC covers up the evidence, and that makes it the fault of critics for not being able to get at it?

Mark Konkler should really get that high school diploma, maybe even take a Logic class at CR sometime.

At 9:21 AM, Blogger mresquan said...

As I expected,you have nothing to back up your accusation.Gee,what a shock.

At 10:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proof? The proof is in the HumIBA pudding. Other IBA orgs are democratic, which means ELECTIONS. HumIBA is run by an UNELECTED STEERING COMMITTEE by Scott's own admission on KHSU radio, and no plans have been disclosed to EVER HOLD ELECTIONS for this group or for any other group run out of the "Democracy Unlimited" house.

David and Kaitlin rule with an iron grip, hand-pick their friends to be stooges for these front groups like HCCR, CCP, HGP, HumIBA, etc. and never let go of power. These are facts. All Mark Konkler has are smart-ass remarks in a lame attempt to cover for these control freaks.

At 12:52 PM, Blogger mresquan said...

Well take your beef to the business owners who have signed up with it and perhaps let them decide if they are being screwed over or not.

At 3:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a business owner, and I am expressing my concern. The same concern was voiced on KHSU and brushed off. Eventually enough of us will voice this concern so that the DUHC controllers will have to answer the damn question.

What a pity our concerns don't fit in with your lame prejudices in favor of anything and everything Democracy Unlimited foists on the public, mresquan.

At 9:40 PM, Blogger mresquan said...

Well then don't join the IBA,and allow the business who decide to,the opportunity to do so,and worthwhile to continue to work with Scott and Kaitlin and whomever if they see that it's a good thing.


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