Prop 57: A Disaster?
A letter writer to the Times- Standard proclaims Prop 57, The Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, will be a disaster if passed. He sure makes it sound scary, assuming his examples are correct.
At this point I'm likely to vote for it, just as I did with Prop 47, the one on the ballot last time that reduced classification and penalties for many crimes. I know I've been reading how Prop 47 has led to increases in crime. I'm not so sure about that. As I wrote before, Prop 47 has opened up jail space, or so we were told in the Times- Standard shorty after it passed. Complaints of criminals being let go all the time- the old catch and release- might be true, but it's not for lack of jail space.
As I've pointed out before, I think it's just that the courts and jail staff got in the habit of routinely releasing minor offenders for fear of jail overcrowding and they're still operating that way.
Maybe the same complaints will be heard if Prop 57 passes? If so, I suspect it won't be for lack of jail space. Perhaps lessening of sentences is a legitimate concern, but I don't think we're well served with trying to keep everyone in jail for as long as possible.
There must be a better way to deal with crime than that. If nothing else, maybe Prop 57 will allow us to have enough space available in prisons and jails for the truly dangerous criminals?
posted by Fred Mangels @ 9:35 AM
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It is something to be very concerned about if you value rehabilitation for low level crimes that affect most people in every sized community. We need to not support the swinging door policy unless a solution arises to treat those repeat offenders. Normally it is the 12 step tradition half way homes that are called to house such cases and some are able to recover from substance abuse and turn their lives around very well and give back to the community. I have worked at such a facility and noticed repeaters who are rearrested and sent back for another 3 month duration more than one time in a 12 month period. So think about the crimes they must have committed to become arrested again. Plus the courts time and the probation officers paperwork etc. Family and old friends usually contribute to the fall of such percentages of returns. When involved with the 12 step tradition and others who are seeking recovery though, there does seem to be a happiness in that kind of surrogate family about the life without substance addiction.
We should make every effort we can to "rehabilitate" criminals, although I wonder if that's possible with many of them. Still, I don't think keeping all these people in jail for forever does us well, aside from them not being able to commit crimes while incarcerated.
Why even attempt to rehab a mj grower or smoker or other drug users?
Let people do all drugs and those who won't moderate and respect themselves will eventially die, solving the problem on a case by case basis.
The precipice of polar opposites:
Economy down, crime up, let out prisoners while increasing gun prohibitions on society.
Reads like a set up for failure political maneuver for the state economies faux budget.
Why even attempt to rehab a mj grower or smoker or other drug users?
Let people do all drugs and those who won't moderate and respect themselves will eventially die, solving the problem on a case by case basis.
The precipice of polar opposites:
Economy down, crime up, let out prisoners while increasing gun prohibitions on society.
Reads like a set up for failure political maneuver for the state economies faux budget.
If there was no victim, there was no crime. If there was no crime, there was no criminal. End of story.
I haven't read the measure yet, but if it's as libtarded as the last measure that let out thieves, rapers & the sort, which ARE crimes, then eff no.
if brown started proposition then VOTE NO , its worse for calif. than prop 47
if your child was stole and taken to be sex slave , if they found out who took them , would you want them out of jail on the street in a couple months or locked behind bars for years .
WHY SHOULD CALIFORNIA PENALTIES BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER STATES
Exactly. What you said is true.
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