Sunday, October 23, 2005

Unions And Other Special Interests

An informative article on unions and other special interests that affect policy in Sacramento is in the SF Chronicle today. While the article focuses mostly on unions, specifically government employee unions, it also refers to the Chamber of Commerce and other "special interests".

One thing I found interesting was the comparison of expenditures between labor and business for campaign spending. I've been reading lately that business/ corporate interests outspend unions anywhere from 20 to 24 to 1 in campaign contributions. The figures the article gives don't come close to that ratio, but I'll admit to not getting out and crunching the numbers with a calculator. Maybe I misread or misinterpreted them? Besides, they may be using different references to come up with their statistics than the ones throwing around the 20 to 1 ratios. Or, somebody just threw out the 20 to 1 ratio and everybody just accepted it and used it without looking into the source.
Update, October 24: State Assemblyman Ray Haynes asks some questions about government employee unions in today's Monday Morning Memorandum.


At 4:17 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

Fred, you don't really buy the either/or, oversimplified tripe that Ray Haynes is spewing forth do you?

At 8:20 AM, Blogger Fred said...

But of course!!!

Mostly I decided to post that because I knew it would REALLY get your goat, Jeff. :-)

At 8:58 AM, Blogger Jeff said...

I was actually wondering if that were true. I don't mind arguments that are opposed to my opinion. I just hate with a passion poorly constructed arguments riddled with fallacies.

At 11:42 AM, Anonymous Leonidas said...

Since changing his email address (in addition to following the rats) the Leonidas has been unable to get on the Monday Morning Memorandum Mailing (nice alliteration?) list but did read the link you provided.
Leonidas he would be interested, Jeff if you would enumerate the fallacies in Haynes' position. There is a great list of common fallacies at:
The Leonidas hopes that Jeff avoids becoming glandular by "hating with a passion. The Leonidas has had considerable experience with the "labor movement". (Credentials provided upon request).

At 3:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate third person speak.

At 7:20 PM, Anonymous the leonidas said...

We seem to be generating a glandular as opposed to a cerebral reaction.

Is first person plural OK?

At 9:22 PM, Blogger Jeff said...


You ok? Meds need adjusting?

At 10:29 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

Click here leonidas, my attempt to enumerate


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