Candidate Residency Requirements
I guess The Works owner and Eureka City Council candidate, Larry Glass, isn't the only one being scrutinized for dodging candidate residency requirements.
This guy, from Mendocino County, is running for Ukiah City Council. He lived outside the city limits and simply moved into his business, inside the city limits, to meet the residency requirements.
I wonder if Larry Glass might of saved himself a hassle and done the same thing here? Of course, he might well of just rented a room somewhere in Eureka to register to vote. I don't know what he did. Might have been just as easy to rent the room.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 8:22 AM
106 comments
106 Comments:
that's pretty much what he did, isn't it?
...and he has been living and working in Eureka for 35 years, though he may have "resided" outside the city limits. The incumbent in his race is a rich lady from somewhere else.
ah, the spin machine.
8:32 wrote, "that's pretty much what he did, isn't it?".
I don't know.
I suppose you could call city hall and ask what address he used on his candidacy papers.
Rich lady from someplace else ? Where is someplace else ?
Larry Glass was not a Eureka resident.
And neither is Jake Pickering.
Pickering's latest ranting letter to the editor (8/19/06) lists his residence is STILL in Arcata. OOOOOOOOPPPPS! Jake, You slipped up, man.
Carpetbaggers is too kind a term.
http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=14064
well larry lives in an apartment right across the street from his Eureka Store..if you knew anything you would know that you cant use your business as a residence...Gwen golden
That old rich lady is from simi valley and has only lived here for 9 years
http://www.eurekawebs.com/CityHall/council/Wolford.htm
Jake Pickering? What is he running for and who is he? Does he live in Eureka with Larry Glass? Don't they rent a room from Mary Beth Wolford?
I don't know much about Pickering, myself, other than him writing some hard left letters to the editor to the local papers.
So who has started the Larry Glass watch? I think a stakeout with a video cam would be cool to see how much he lives in his Eureka pad, and how much he lives at his Arcata pad.
Oh neat, now anon.r.mous wants to become a stalker!
anonrmous your an idiot larry doesnt have a house in arcata and your a freak
that' "you're" not your ...... whose the idiot !
Glass maintains a home in Freshwater for many years.
uh, 2:32 that would be "that's" and "who's" the idiot.
:)
Egads Fred. Sorry I've been out of it so long. Have you nobody to contribute thoughtful and meaningful comments? But then again, I'm not either, am I?
Read Mary Beth Wolford's credentials and match them with Larry Glass. Mary Beth should win by a landslide if informed voters go to the poll. What will Larry bring (grumpily) to the Eureka City Council? He should get serious and drop out. Carpetbagging no growth left winger with little experience in anything but protesting growth in any form. A protectionist extreme. His own business is all that matters, the heck with you Eureka!
IF informed voters go to the polls
that's assuming alot in Humboldt
Jeff, the roof is looking good. Stay hydrated.
Oh neat, now anon.r.mous wants to become a stalker!
No, a stalker would be following someone around, this would see where he spends his time at "home".
anonrmous your an idiot larry doesnt have a house in arcata and your a freak
Cool.
Glass maintains a home in Freshwater for many years.
Freshwater eh?
"...and he has been living and working in Eureka for 35 years, though he may have "resided" outside the city limits"
Gee, my husband has owned a business in Eureka for almost 20 years. I guess he is now qualified to run for Eureka City Council even though we have never lived in Eureka.
This is great. It's like dual citizenship. Can he run in Arcata and Fortuna, too? Maybe we could rent a room at the Arcata Hotel.
NO, because Larry live inside the city NOW. Stupid.
You mean I have to move in a few days before the filing period?
It's that easy? Do I have to rent an apartment or can I bood a hotel room for a few months?
This is so COOL!
Hey, we have a City Manager that doesn't live in Eureka.
Anonymous said...
NO, because Larry live inside the city NOW. Stupid.
7:13 PM
But we shall see if he really "lives" there or is just using that address, all the while driving home, well, to his home, in Freshwater.
Anon 9:13 this has been addressed before. The city manager IS NOT elected ! He is appointed ! He can live wherever he wants. I know it's difficult for a retard to completely understand, but try.
Richard's goons are just testing their spin here. You'll hear the same drivel on KMUD if you tune in on free call-in time. Larry the long-time do-gooder, entitled to represent the people of Eureka...pretend he lives here, ok, hold you nose and vote for Bonnie, and whatever smear he cooks up on Leonard, Wolford and Jones...
The City Manager has more to say about what happens to Eureka than all of the City Council. Why shouldn't he have to live in Eureka?
Didn't rex bohn move to eureka to run?
Didn't rex bohn move to eureka to run?
No, he has owned his home there in that ward for many years. From what I;ve been told over and over.
Anonymous said...
NO, because Larry live inside the city NOW. Stupid.
OHHHHHH. He lives here NOWWWWW.
OHhhhh.
from another thread:
anonymous said...
(Glass is) Dem machine candidate all the way, he bullied a more progressive candidate into dropping out. What a hero for Loco Solutions. 11:07 AM
anonymous said...
and salzman knows damn well about pushing people out of races. just keep it up buddy and the whole world will know too. 3:41 PM
anonymous said...
Maria was threatened with destruction if she stayed in the race 8:26 PM
Maria should talk to Sara Senger, and any reporter who will listen. They can't do anything to you if you speak out, Maria. It's time to call the bully on his BS. Because you are not the only one, and you have to think about saving the next person.
Boy, you neocons must be scared. What a bunch o' hooey.
Scared? Try DISGUSTED.
"Jeff, the roof is looking good. Stay hydrated."
Thanks anon 606. I'll stay hydrated, but I sure hope my attic doesn't get hydrated.
As for this residency thing, ya'll defending the rules as is. Why shouldn't a business owner in a municipality qualify for candidacy for city council? Doesn't a business have at least as much stake and interest in the city that hosts their business?
"Why shouldn't a business owner in a municipality qualify for candidacy for city council?".
I might well agree with you. About the only problem would be that some things they would vote on might not apply to a business owner who lives outside the city.
The Utility Tax, for instance. Glass would pay it with his business but he wouldn't pay on it at his home in Freshwater. I suspect, though, if he rented a room or apartment in Eureka, he would pay the tax on utilities used at that apartment, since that's how the utilities decide who pays: The billing address.
Then again, if it was just a place rented to get around candidate residency rules, and he didn't occupy it, a candidate might not even bother with phone, gas and electric so he wouldn't have to worry about the tax.
If you make that argument, jeff then you really throw a monkey wrench into the whole anti-Maxxam/Measure T thing.
Hurwitz for City Council.
Fred, what if a business owner has business' in Arcata, Redding, and Willets? Do you think he should be able to be on the city coucil of each city ?
What you have here is the locosolutions antiArkely crowd wanting to rewrite the rules to accomodate them, bending hte rules to suit them and squawking about caring about local control. Theatre of the absurd.
What I'd love to see is Rob Arkley Jr. and Dean Singleton duke it out for Lord Mayor of Eureka. We know where T-S and ER would fall, where would the rest of the media swing to?
Fred you gonna answer 11:43?
Check out the link on buhne to see how our beloved hometown newpaper, that precious resource we must protect conducts itself:
"Some newspaper veterans view the fifty-one-year-old Singleton as a latter-day Frank Munsey, who buried four New York dailies in the early part of the last century and whom A.J. Liebling called "a mass murderer of newspapers."
Singleton is the CEO of the privately held MediaNews Group, the seventh-largest newspaper company in the U.S., with forty-eight dailies (and 121 nondailies) in eleven states. The best-known papers in MediaNews are The Denver Post, the Los Angeles Daily News, and The Salt Lake Tribune, which Singleton recently acquired with the aid of the Mormon church (see "The News in Mormon Country," Page 42). In constructing his empire, Singleton has included a very sharp knife among his tools, and he has used it. In 1975, after a brief, inglorious run, he closed The Fort Worth Press, the city's second daily, which inspired reporters to hurl beer cans at him. In 1981 he gutted the Trenton Times, prompting its editor to tell CJR, "The public has lost a watchdog and gained a bulletin board." In 1995 he shuttered the Houston Post, throwing well over a thousand people out of work and killing a publication that had served the community since 1885. Nor is Singleton known for graceful entrances............."
Where's the anti-corp crowd?
Rumor mill is alive.
Rex lives in my neighborhood and moved there just before running against Kerrigan.
I also know Maria and she was in no way threatened. If you knew Maria you would know how she would respond to anyone telling her what to do.
10:43 wrote, "Fred, what if a business owner has business' in Arcata, Redding, and Willets?".
And what if he lived in Eureka?
Your point is well made. I'm just not all that concerned if someone lives just outside the city limits, as there's always some way to weasel around the residence requirements.
I'll admit, though, to being a bit uncomfortable with that guy (forget the name) that Levallee was trying to get on the Planning Commission. I guess he had a house in Eureka, but seemed to spend the vast majority of his time at his business east of Garberville.
Kinda the opposite situation of what we're discussing here, yet I was a bit uncomfortable with it.
As annoying as it can seem at times, I do enjoy hearing the Measure T supporters trying to justify their candidates from just outside of town or their out of the area campaign contributions. Fun stuff.
Yes it can be fun. And Fred you are right to be uncomfortable with the "businessman" east of Garberville wanting to be on the planning commission in Eureka !
That's another reason to consider voting LaVallee out.
Robert Fasic was his name, and he lives in a beautifully restored home over on 10th Street. He definitely lives here, even if he is the founder of one of the best private educational institutions in the county -- as if that's a bad thing? Don't you libs want education privatitzed anyway?
Either you have rules that a person has to live in the City to be on the City Council or you don't.
Maybe the rules need to be changed. If it were up to me I would say you have to have lived here for at least three years. But pick any arbitrary number higher than the current ridiculously low time period.
If you're going to let a guy run just because he owns and operates a business there, why not go all the way, you can run if you have any job in Eureka, even a part time job.
If the guy owns a business, does he have to also own the property? Or not? Does he have to have a long term lease? Or not?
Can he open up a storefront a few months before the election and qualify?
Face it, Glass' support is because he joined the anti-Arkley crowd. He's the Cindy Sheehan of Marina Center.
And that crowd'll bend and break every rule in the book while they deman that you adhere to new and higher standards of conduct that they designate.
The question always comes back to will the people of Eureka fall for it or are they smarter than that?
Well living in freshwater means larry address would read Eureka california 95503
also he would have to live in his new residence so yes he would have to pay taxes on gas water elec
Unfortunatley I don't think they are smarter than that. After all we do have Chris.
And how long did Wolford live here before running?
Nobody is bending rules. The rules are what they are.
she lived here for like 7 years maybe...larry has been eureka for 36 years
Some good arguments against allowing a nonresident business owner to serve on city council. Still, if the voters can't be trusted to sort it out, ain't no rules you can make about who can run that will improve things. Stupid is as stupid votes.
When did Eureka annex Freshwater?
Fieldbrook and McKinleyville's PO ZIP was 95521 for years.
That doesn't mean they reside in Arcata, nor could they run for Arcata City Council, though I daresay many of the residents of Fieldbrook and McKinleyville had businesses in Arcata as well.
So for 36 years Larry chose NOT to live in Eureka? Preponderance of evidence.
What if you have a business address in San Francisco and New York but you run it from your Trinidad residence?
How much say should you have in how Eureka's City Council run?
1:42 well freshwater is about 1/2 mile out of the city limits...yet all kids in freshwater go to eureka city schools so hmmm why should that be a problem i guess i just dont get it . i bet larrys kids have gone to eureka city schools there whole life...
who are you voting for fred?????
Larry's kids aren't running for public office you F%$#* moron !
Hey, Mike Jones lives in Eureka and he's the biggest loser to ever sit on the council. Next to Deaf Leonard.
3:06 angry are we....or are you just hot head Arkley
Jeez - leave it alone 3:40 - do you have to spin everything as Arkley.
Get real and get a life or are you R. Trent.
I R not.
What nice people! Let's spend the night here, honey!
Hmmm , let's see , LaValle wants more drug rehab's. in , Eureka , Neely wants our taxes spent on junkies . Glass favors criminals over the Police . Hey , Council (potential ) members up for re-election ...all your Bullshit promises ...well , you had 4 years to do the job and i see Eureka being turned into more and more lawlessness junkies and criminals .
Let's face it. All the Council people , well , they all suk!
You can't blame the crime on the City Council when the DA is letting meth dealers, rapists and child molesters go free.
He's not letting them go ! They're getting misdomeanors with summary probation.
Or he's not prosecuting them altogether. Not accepting the cases brought to him by law enforcement.
Like Gallegos said duing the last election, he's "preventing crime by preventing crime" ?
The DA's office doesn't need any more lawyers cause Gallegos has prevented so much crime !
The crime rate has gone down just because he, and his butt boy, Tim Stoen were in office. Now he has a different butt boy (Schwartz).
Maybe he ought to share his secret of success with other DA's? Then all of California could be crime free?
Hi Rose.
Sorry buddy you got the wrong blogger!
Gotcha!
Uhuh.
Wrong. Don't give Rose the credit for all the good stuff.
Well, back to the issue at hand, although I will more than likely not vote for Glass, I certainly do not have a problem with him running, as he has satisfied the residency standards, as they stand right now.
I do agree that perhaps they should have a longer residency requirement, but that is something that should, if people desire it, apply to future elections.
What I have a problem with is Glass and Salzman intimidating another leftist candidate out of the race so he can run under this left-right dichotomy scheme against Wolford and Williams. Glass might even not get my vote after this, perhaps I'll give it to Tish just to teach him and those Loco Solutions thugs a lesson.
Thats all well and good anon445, but the subject at hand is about residency rules, which Salz/Local Sol Pac, have nothing to do with. And trust me, I vote more to the right than to the left, and am most definitley NOT a Salzman/Local sol supporter.
Candidates do this all the time to satisfy residency...How long was HR Clinton a resident of NY...Not saying its a good or bad thing, but you cant change the rules right in the middle of an election filing period.
Alan Keyes slammed Hillary for carpetbagging, and then did it himself in Illinois when the Republicans were desperate for a sacrificial lamb to get blown out of the water by Obama.
Thing is, I don't think carpetbagging is necessarily a bad thing, so long as you have some intrinsic affinity with the community.
No one intimidated another candidate into not running. Stop with the rediculous rumor. Talk to those candidates yourself if you don't believe me. They both stepped aside in the interest of defeating the incumbant. Plain and simple.
Whatever you say Sarah Salzman, or is it R Trent Williams, or is it Claire Courtney? I'm so confused...
Sorry to confuse you Rob, or Chris Crawford, you sorry assed twit.
Opps... Jerry.
As much as it might befuddle your tiny brain, there are those of us on the left that are just as disgusted with Loco Solutions intimidation as any Arkley worshiper.
Leave Claire Courtney out of this. She is a fine person and doesn't deserve any disrespect from the likes of you.
Well Local Solutions wasn't involved. Sorry.
It was Richard Salzman who disrespected Courtney and countless others by falsely impersonating them in his attack letters. The Journal and others have thouroughly documented this. And we all know Loco Solutions is behind the Eureka juggernaut of 'progressive' candidates.
Local Solutions announces endorsements for Eureka City Council, mayoral elections
Progressive local political action committee Local Solutions announced its endorsements in the Eureka City Council race Wednesday, throwing its weight behind candidates Larry Glass, Ron Kuhnel, Nan Abrams and incumbent Peter La Vallee for the 1st, 3rd and 5th Ward council seats and the mayoral seat, respectively.
What was anon.r.salzman just trying to spin us with? Oh yeah, Loco has nothing to do with this, sure.
You folks are just jealous that the liberal left is organized and you are not.
So does Loco ( crazy ) solutions tell me how to vote ? I think not ......there for screwballs screwing up our City .
Who pays attention to Local Solutions other than your facination with them?
Oh thats right, those four articles in the last week about them (two in T-S, two in ER) were just my imagination. And again, there are leftists who are really pissed off with the Loco Solutions intimidation tactics, so stop trying to paint us all as neocon Arkleyists.
loco sol has put themselves in the spotlight so its a little late and a lot lame for them to complain about it now.
9:52 wrote, "You folks are just jealous that the liberal left is organized and you are not.".
I'll respond, "Tyranny is always better organized than freedom"- Charles Peguy
Funny.
You nailed it Fred.
I was going to point out that the GOP has in the past 80 years been much more organized by the Democrats, and the most well-organized lobby is by far the gun lobby.
The Ukiah guy made the Press Democrat btw.
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060825/NEWS/608250418/1033/NEWS01
No point in having rules if you don't adhere to them.
At 9:16 PM, Anonymous said...
"It was Richard Salzman who disrespected Courtney and countless others by falsely impersonating them in his attack letters. "
Sorry, Ms Courtney never went public in any of the press stating that she was falsely impersonated in any of the letters to the editor. So it is accurate to say she was falsely impersonated until, at least, she claims to have been.
Oops - it is inaccurate to say she was falsely impersonated until, at least, she claims to have been
One would have hoped Claire was smarter than that. How does Salzman win over all these women, Sylvia De Rooy, Ellen Taylor, Claire Courtney, Andrea Davis? He must be quite the lothario.
A lothario? What is that?
It's yet another conspiracy. I think, deep in our hearts, we all know that.
In response to "Anonymous" - who isn't courageous enough to use his/her/its own name, apparently - I am a resident of Eureka. Just because The Eureka Reporter prints something, don't take it as gospel next time. Have a nice day,
Jake Pickering
- Candidate for Humboldt Bay Municipal Water Dist (Division 4)
Fred, you know what they say about Libertarians? Libertarians are just Republicans who like to smoke dope.
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