Tuesday, December 05, 2006

Kuhnel Says Recount Likely

So Roh Kuhnel says he's seriously thinking about asking for a recount? It wouldn't bother me if they did an automatic recount, as a matter of routine, when races are as close as the one between Ron Kuhnel and Jeff Leonard.

One problem with recounts, seems to me, is the numbers always seem to change every time they recount. The first Bush/ Gore election comes to mind. When do you finally say Enough?

It might be just me, but I think Kuhnel looks a lot more like someone with an agenda that 's determined to win- no matter what- by asking for a recount. It kind of cheapens his image as I see it.

Hey, with races this close a recount might go either way. Heck, with races this close the results could certainly have been different if the election were held a day earlier or later.

If it was me, I don't think I'd go for the recount, but I'm sure it's not just him. He's probably got a lot of people desperate for him to win, egging him on.

Greg has a couple polls on his blog asking about the recount. Cast your votes today!


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At 9:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I can appreciate Ron asking for a recount, having spoken to Ron many times, he is not a person with a strong backbone, which scares me more. At least Larry has the strength of his convictions, Ron is a wimp who will be nothing but a tool of whichever person talked to him last.

At 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, Fred doesn't care what you think because you're anonymous.

"You're just someone that posts here anonamously. Which gives you little credence."

-- Fred

At 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Richard is at it...

Tuesday 6:30 pm Eureka City Hall 531 K St.


To all residents of Eureka,

You are urged to attend the Eureka City Council Meeting scheduled for this next Tuesday, December 5, 2006, beginning at 6:30 pm.
The council will consider the question of filling the vacant Ward 2 seat now that former Council Member Virginia Bass has assumed the job of Mayor.

This is a crucial issue!

There are two options for filling this open position on the council:
Fill the vacancy by appointment by the Mayor with the approval of a majority of the COUNCIL MEMBERS; or,
Call a special municipal election to fill the vacancy.

The key fact in this situation is that in the event of a tie among the members of the council, the Mayor typically casts the deciding vote. In this case, with a tie being highly likely, the Mayor would be in the position of voting for her own nominee. This represents an unacceptable conflict of interest (and arguable, a violation of the law)!

In light of the razor thin vote margins between Mayor Bass and former Mayor La Vallee, and Council Member Leonard and Planning Commissioner Kuhnel, there is clearly no mandate for any specific policy approach within our community. This makes the option of appointing a replacement to the Ward 2 council seat undemocratic.

While a campaign-weary public could react to the prospect of a special election with all the enthusiasm of a polar bear crossing the Sahara, the founders of our unique nation never promised that democracy and citizen self-rule wouldn't take work. An election would best represent the will of the people and so it is the best option.

The divisions in our community are unfortunate and should have been avoided by the previous council majority, but imposing an unelected representative can only perpetuate the divisions among us.

We hope you will join us next Tuesday in calling for a special election to decide this important question.

At 1:44 PM, Anonymous mresquan said...

Virginia is calling out for her supporters to show up as well.

At 3:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yadayadyada....historically vacated seats have always been appointed. It has nothing to do with "Democracy" and all the stuff being fed to us.

It has to do with efficiency and rational thinking. Whaddya suppose all the sturm and drang is about?

Oh,...I know let's have a "special election" so special interest groups can fund someone to voice their agenda....kind of like this past election which did not prove a thing.

Thanks but no thanks. Two years is not an eternity. I trust the mayor and city council to read the applications, have interviews and make a good solid choice based on someone who can stand up to both extremes and do the right thing even if it's a tough decision.

Doesn't anyone else feel queasy with all the recount and special elections speak put forth by one side of the aisle, albeit the "far side"?

Don't look now, but "The Agenda" so carefully kept under the radar is beginning to show.

At 3:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just one more pathetic attempt to chump the agenda....A parting shot from LaVallee et al. Kerrigan asked for a mandate and didn't get it so now in the pretense of public participation, he wants the City to shell out $30K for another election he'll lose.

Imagine what he would be saying if it was his or LaVallee's appointment to make?

For now, Chris your nose is growing.

At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wonder how many phone calls kuhnel is getting from old puppetmaster salzieboy

At 3:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


What happened, forgot to take your anti-seizure medicine?

At 4:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe Nancy Flemming lives within Virgina Bass's ward...

At 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 3:15, you make some good points. A special election now is too much! The vast majority of the public doesn't want to deal with more lawn signs, more radio/tv ads, more newspaper articles. They want to be done with it! So, what will happen? The 50 people on each "side" will go out to vote! No healing will happen, no one will be able to move on!
Just appoint someone who is "middle of the road" moderate, who is smart enough to read and understand the adgendas and get on with city business!

At 5:04 PM, Blogger Fred said...

How about Eureka gadfly, Tish Wilburn. She's not as enamored as some would think (and I've gotten the impression others in the limelight aren't as well)with Marina Center.

She might make a great choice!

That said, I don't know that some of the "Marina Center" ticket are all that much of die hards over the Marina Center, themselves.

I certainly got that impression from Virginia Bass.

Sure, like most, she looks kindly on some private entity taking charge of the Balloon Tract. At the same time, I got the impression she was interested in looking at all the possibilites.

At 6:50 PM, Blogger Carol Ann said...

Yes, but Fred, Tish lives in the 1st Ward!

At 11:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

With George "signing statement" Bush still in the White House subverting the "Government of the people, by the people, and for the people", we need all the democracy we can muster, at every level of government.

If it costs too much, let's send the bill to Halliburton, and get some of our taxpayer money back.

At 6:34 AM, Blogger Fred said...

Good point, Carol. Hadn't thought about that.

At 3:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I believe Nancy Flemming lives within Virgina Bass's ward...

My great fear is that Nancy Flemming lives within Virginia Bass's brain.

At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nancy Flemming lives on Indian Island and that is the 1st ward district.

Just thought I would update you on some facts instead of the fiction you are presently passing on as truth.

At 10:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dearest Fred,
Virginia, Mary Beth, Jeff and MIke are/were all interested in looking at all the possibilities. They are responsible adults who understand if they say "no" before the conversation begins, there is no conversation.

So which would you rather have; a possiblity cut down or a possibility considered?

At 10:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"For now, Chris your nose is growing."

Did you watch Leonard very nicely back him into a corner last night? It was a beautiful thing.

He had to either admit he would never be willing to work with the council on an appointment and look like the agenda driven politician he is or take the moderate approach and say he could and would work with the council on reaching consensus on the "appointment".

Needless to say, being the agenda driven politician he is but still wanting to conceal it, he decided to join and make the decision unanimous for moving forward, according to the city charter and help appoint someone to the vacancy.

It was classic. Go Jeff!

At 7:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any one have any complaints regarding Charles Douglas conduct please forward them to Judge Brown.


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