That Russian Hack Thing Again
Lengthy, but nicely done job of describing what went on in regards the supposed Russian hack job. Goes back to some time before the election:
"So what we know is that there’s zero evidence of hacking at the polls, the worst case scenario is that the Russians got the truth about Hillary out, and that influencing an election by telling the truth isn’t a criminal act and doesn’t delegitimize an election. And this is nothing new or unusual, as we’d done it, with lies — so this was better than our actions."
posted by Fred Mangels @ 9:40 AM
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22 Comments:
That opinion sounds even more biased than the mainstream media's attempt to connect Trump directly...
The US has done this through actions by the CIA countless times. Our outrage is ludicrous.
The only problem with this is that we know differently now, from what the article says contrasted to the recent intelligence briefings and investigations coming to light only recently.
The article you quoted, Fred, is 3 weeks old. A lot has changed since.
The Russians did hack, Putin did tell his generals and military to help Mr. Trump, and Trump is consequently cozying up to them and calling everyone else fools (go figure). John McCain is calling this 'an act of war.' It is treasonous.
So yeah, a lot has changed and heated up in light of new information and revelations since this article has come out on December 13.
Rusty Cage,
Russia may have meddled in our affairs. So what. Obama meddled in the Brexit vote. Also in Israel's vote for prime minister. I would bet there were several others. I hope he is wearing a helmet, knee pads and elbow pads up there on his high moral hobby horse. The fact of the matter is Hillary was a shit candidate. Otherwise she would have beat Trump handily.
D.W.
Goal was to undermine US faith in democratic process
"We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."
And we do the same sort of thing all the time to other countries.
Russia, the country that is the US's largest enemy, helped get a Republican elected President of the United States.
But that's OK to some since Russia helped elect a Republican.
Had Russia helped elect a Democrat those same people would be screaming "Treason!!!".
That's an astounding apologetic take on a foreign power meddling in our presidential election.
Let's see T's tax returns to see if he has any business dealings with Russia. His love affair with Putin doesn't make sense.
Where are all the conservative hawks who worry so much about Russia's involvement in US affairs? Why are they all staying silent?
"That's an astounding apologetic take on a foreign power meddling in our presidential election"
Meddling in our election? They simply gave Americans information a candidate tried to hide. We should thank, not condemn them.
As for Assange's part in all this: He should be considered a world hero.
The Russians had both Democratic and Republican data that they stole.
They released only the Democratic information.
Why are you joining up with the Russians? When did it become fashionable to become a traitor?
The Dems loved Assange when he released RNC corruption. Now that he's releasing DNC corruption, they have disowned him.
Assange's interview last week settled the matter, when he assured us it was not the Russians.
McAfee settled the matter last week, when he shared why it's idiotic at best, of accusing the Russians.
Yet, here we are, still having to listen to non supported accusations by dnc fans.
Like what was said, what does it matter?
All in all, we can bet that Putin is extremely insulted. He has the best modern weaponry, troop training, technicians, hackers, and here we are accusing him of child's play hacking? SMH.
I saw a headline this morning. I believe it was from Time magazine quoting Trump as saying, "What's wrong with having better relations with Russia?".
I agree. We shouldn't be trying to find enemies around every corner as Bob "Braveheart" Wallace seems to feel.
I read an article describing how hardcore Trump supporters view the hacking, disinformation, fake news, and the influencing of an American election:
"Sour Grapes"
"What's the big deal?"
"It's nothing compared to what the Clintons did."
"If this is what it takes, so be it."
Really? Really?! Incredible.
Welcome to the new paradigm of America. Anything goes.
Bernie sold out to a shit candidate to protect the very organization that railroaded him...... Bernie don't know ethics or morals.....Fucking grey haired shit for fuck.
Faith now, previously hope......Semantics of an alternate reality.....Swoosh.....
Oh now now, don't you see the relativity in all this.......It is like your beloved 2 Party System Bobby........When dictatorship is at peril, align with your enemy as a friend.......It is about the conjoinment of 2 to maintain power and control....
2 Party System = 2 State Solution
Scary shit that is......TWO!
Silence of the Lambs......Great movie.....Kinda fits politics today too.
Fred,
Treasonists who hide away information are just that, TREASON ARTISTS!
Linked?
Ditto,
But Bobby is a progressive, so logic means zilch.
Clinton's - Arkansas murderers.......
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