CREG Isn't Saying
Not only do the Citizens for Real Economic Growth not know who gave how much to their organization, they wouldn't have to tell you if they did know, according to this article in the Eureka Reporter today.
Making it a fair play all the way around, Chris Crawford, of the Humboldt Business Council, says the same thing: As a non- profit, neither of them are required to disclose contributors.
That's fine with me. Let's just not see any more finger pointing at each other over lack of disclosure, and I don't care if it involves a non- profit, or not.
posted by Fred Mangels @ 8:55 AM
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43 Comments:
We don't need no stinking disclosures!
Care about honesty in politics? Vote no on Bass and no on Glass!
Oh so that Hatchet Job on Chris Kerrigan last time from Citizens for whatever the hell they were called-that was ok? How about knowing who is paying the messenger? I'd like to know who the snarkey anon SOBs are!
Goes for CREG too-and BTW looking over their supporter website-the cause is listing with all the Pierson employees hanging onto the side of their life raft.
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"I'd like to know who the snarkey anon SOBs are!"
You mean those who gave money to the Humboldt Business Council?
Write a letter to editor@eurekareporter.com. We did:
Editor,
Eek! We confess! (ER Headline 11/2) We have given CREG money!
We donated coffee and cookies, too! Please, no more torturous headlines!
Seriously, don't you think the whole article was a bit of a
reach? If you were really striving for fairness and balance, you
would have freaked out at HBC, too. Good grief.
Greg and Carol Conners
Loleta
So just who is financially behind CREG and the Humboldt Business Council?
And more importantly, why did CREG and the Humboldt Business Council organize as a 501(c)'s?
CREG does not serve any charitable purpose outside of stopping Home Depot and the Arkley’s proposed Marina Center. Nice charity guys.
To circumvent the California Fair Political Practices Commission (FPPC), which enforces campaign finance law, major donors prefer to contribute to 527s and 501(c)s.
By definition a 501(c) is a subsection of the United States Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)), which lists 28 types of non-profit organizations exempt from certain federal taxes.
But in election jargon it is simply a single-issue advocacy group.
Many major donors prefer this approach because they can control how the money is used with their own political agenda steering the 501(c).
It allows them to donate unlimited funds and 501(c) groups and not have to disclose donors, dollar amounts or itemize spending.
In other words, zero public campaign finance disclosure.
Who is this Ester Saunoras from Petrolia who can afford to give $5,000 each to Larry Glass and Nan Abrams (for a total of $10,000) and why hasn't the local media picked up on this person?
Ester Saunoras is not a registered voter, nor owns any property in Humboldt County. Anyone else find this strange?
I’d highly recommend we begin demanding the Times Standard and Eureka Reporter do a fair and balanced piece of journalism regarding money in local politics, especially money coming from outside our local area.
Also we should begin to demand real campaign finance reform.
Measure T has too many loopholes. We just had our first non-compliance with this local Ordinance this past week.
http://www.votelocalcontrol.org/ordinance_text.htm
The lawsuit will be brought in the Superior Court of California, County of Humboldt after the elections per Measure T’s website.
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There are questions about what is charitable or educational and what is political - plenty of gray area to fight over. How about instant reporting? Campaigns and organizations could log ALL donations online daily or weekly. The technology is here. Now for some political will (don't hold your breath). The way it is now, the most fascinating reading (last-minute donations) is not public until after the election.
9:47, you forgot to tell us what the Humboldt Business Council does.I haven't heard of them doing much for awile,but then I look and see that they've endorsed their founder Chris Crawford's slate.
Are the Arkley's registered to vote everywhere in which they donate to political campaigns?Are Ester's donations strange?Sure.Are Arkley's donations strange?Sure.Is it strange that Brian Morrissey has donated money to candidates who support a project in which he is paid to work on,and moved here to sell the project,and seeks to make a nice bit of income from?Sure.
The solution: a cap across the board,no one is exempt,no union or non profit is exempt,like Chris has mentioned before.No donations more than$300 per election cycle including cash and gifts,I think $500 is still too much.But it's a starting point.
"I’d highly recommend we begin demanding the Times Standard and Eureka Reporter do a fair and balanced piece of journalism regarding money in local politics, especially money coming from outside our local area"
Don't you mean MONEY LAUNDERING?
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I can't wait until this frickin' election is over! Christ Almighty, this is sickening.
11:05 Go Back to Bed until next Wednesday.
I'm all for a $1,000 cap across the board. Funny how Katlin and Cobb aren't.
But you have to look at the 460s to figure out who's against a cap.
Let's see - could it be the slate who is primarily financed by Bill Pierson ($20,000 to Neely, $4,000-$4,500 to LaVallee, Glass, Kuhnel, and Abrams) and Ester Saunoras ($5,000 each to Larry Glass and Nan Abrams)?
Yes on 89. It's a good start.
yup pretty slimey and underhanded.
Buying your favors in advance.
go away Greg ............
11:35 Please explain. I will check back later. Hope I haven't done the wrong thing voting for Prop. 89.
Can't see how it would help anyone buy or sell political favors. I guess that's what you are talking about.
Go away? I probably should. Work to do. Back later for enlightenment.
"Let's see - could it be the slate who is primarily financed by Bill Pierson ($20,000 to Neely, $4,000-$4,500 to LaVallee, Glass, Kuhnel, and Abrams) and Ester Saunoras ($5,000 each to Larry Glass and Nan Abrams)?"
Why not add all the Arkley money to the discussion-
and Morressey for that matter
12:12 Would you care to post how much 'everyone' has donated and to whom?
Its always good to spell check so we won't confuse the donations. And where there is Pierson $ its good to be clear on which Pierson is for which candidate...
There is only one Pierson (Bill) who gives huge sums of cash.
Hank and Greg are relatively minor donors by comparisons.
No wonder Piersons wants to keep his hardware monopoly. Its the only way he can ensure his ability to pad eureka govt with his hand picked croneys.
But I LIKE Hank and Greg-I want to know who they are supporting,now don't play favorites!
And I was thinking that the Arkleys making campaign donations was pretty transparent-they are Registered Republicans and they donate to strictly Republican candidates and causes and you can Google them all day, look up corporations held in their names, property listed as owned by them etc etc etc.
Esther Saunoras has to be somebody's cats name-can't Google her except her name is also linked to BAE?
Greg's enlightenment, oh I can't wait?!
Piersons is just an Arkley wannabee!
Hail Arkley! Hail Home Depot! We could also use a Big Lots.
Hail Big Lots!
Esther Saunoras is a Petrolia resident (verified with Petrolia Post Office).
It seems we have more FPPC violations as Larry Glass and Nan Abrams did not give Esther Saunoras home street address in Petrolia on their latest respective 460s.
In addition, Esther Saunoras had to file a form 461 as a major donor with the City of Eureka once she donated $10,000 or more to a local city election.
I can only hope that since Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison are such concerned citizens they can file another a formal complaint against Larry Glass and Nan Abrams with the Fair Political Practices Commission
As far as the complaint, it will speak for itself.
You're assuming that Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison wrote the damn thing, which they didn't. They are just the lemmings who signed their name to it.
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Hey Greg and I agree! Yes and 89! My wife wants limits on what a candidate can spend. She wants a limit you can spend based on a % of what the position pays. I say 10%. The 4th District race will be well over a 1/4 million dollars! What an expensive job interview! Send the responses to SamoaQueenbee@aol.com
More FPPC Formal Complaints:
Richard Salzman used his P.O. Box 41 address instead of his Edwards home address for campaign contributions. This is an FPPC violation.
Now we have Larry Glass and Nan Abrams not giving Esther Saunoras home street address in Petrolia on their latest October 21, 2006 respective 460s. Another FPPC violation.
In addition, Esther Saunoras had to file a form 461 as a major donor with the City of Eureka once she donated $10,000 or more to a local city election. Didn't happen. Another FPPC violation.
Peter LaVallee didn't file his proper Form 700 with the City of Eureka. As he just got married a few months ago, are we to believe that not one single family or friend gave him a gift of $100 or greater? Cheap bastards! Potential FPPC violation. Come clean Peter!
I can only hope that since Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison are such concerned citizens they can file another a formal complaint against Richard Salzman, Larry Glass, Nan Abrams and Peter LaVallee with the Fair Political Practices Commission
As far as the complaints, they will speak for themselves.
Actually, Gallegos took a lot of money from Saunoras and Cogswell and listed only their po boxes only.
Jerry Droz is the only candidate who has not accepted any prime money . He wants to work for you........the people and not for Arkley , Pierson or any casino . Furthermore , getting rid of Bass , Lavallee , Geist , Neely , Rodini and all those who work for the government ( RCAA ) to bring more shelters into , Eureka must be defeated or it'll be more years of more crime , homelessness and druggies dominating our City . Bass is trying to buy this election with government backed dollars so the U.S. can keep us for a dumping ground for all those derilics they can't afford to house in our prisons ..
You guys are doing some serious digging...
Desperate times, eh?
We're just citizens.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison
Eureka, CA
You shure?
Equal opportunity citttt-i-zens?
"We're just citizens.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison
Eureka, CA"
Noooooooo, your lemmings.
They're tools.
Dear,comments regarding Jerry Droz..................i think you meant BRIBE money so you spelt it wrong but , i knew what you meant anyways. Lavallee , Bass and all those council members are being paid by the U.S. Government ( grants ) to use our City for a dumping ground .They are getting RCAA funds which is funded by the u.s. Government for their campaigns to try and defeat , Droz .It's scary .
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Here, sign this form here.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Here?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
No, right here.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
How do we sign this?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Just sign your names as you normally do.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Should we use our full names?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Whatever.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
What about our middle initials?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
If that's how you normally sign your names.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Is this legal?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Of course. We've already had this conversation.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
What do we say if the press calls us?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
You say nothing. No comment. You're just citizens. And you’ve never heard of me before. Understand?
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Yeah, okay.
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Now where’s your computer. I need to send this email to all the local press and media outlets.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Where do we get all those email addresses?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
I already got them for you. I’ll just cut and paste from my flash drive and paste into your email. Don’t worry; I’ve done this before. Many, many times before.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
When will the FPPC come back with their findings?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
It will be at least six to twelve months. In the meantime the damage is done.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Okay. If you say so. Mein Fuhrer Cobb said this would get us free pancakes with the Humboldt County Greens.
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Heck he’ll probably even throw in some free tofu after this.
Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison:
Wow, free tofu? You think?
R. Trent Sleazeman:
Trust me.
November 5th- You Hit the bullseye-Glenn Simmons!
I would like to know who it is planning to file formal complaints and where can we sign up? Its time to run these people out of town on a rail-it doesn't matter how long after the election because it will keep them out of future politics-hopefully?
More FPPC Formal Complaints:
Richard Salzman used his P.O. Box 41 address instead of his Edwards home address for campaign contributions. This is an FPPC violation.
Now we have Larry Glass and Nan Abrams not giving Esther Saunoras home street address in Petrolia on their latest October 21, 2006 respective 460s. Another FPPC violation.
In addition, Esther Saunoras had to file a form 461 as a major donor with the City of Eureka once she donated $10,000 or more to a local city election. Didn't happen. Another FPPC violation.
Peter LaVallee didn't file his proper Form 700 with the City of Eureka. As he just got married a few months ago, are we to believe that not one single family or friend gave him a gift of $100 or greater? Cheap bastards! Potential FPPC violation. Come clean Peter!
I can only hope that since Elizabeth and Patrick Eytchison are such concerned citizens they can file another a formal complaint against Richard Salzman, Larry Glass, Nan Abrams and Peter LaVallee with the Fair Political Practices Commission
As far as the complaints, they will speak for themselves.
Anonymous said...
Actually, Gallegos took a lot of money from Saunoras and Cogswell and listed only their po boxes only.
Isn't it time for the local papers to gewt on this? It can't be they have better things to print before the election!!
That's funny I must have been having a senior moment just then-
Should have read:
Isn't it time for the local papers to get on this? It can't be they have better things to print before the election!!
Can someone explain what an FPPC violation is? Are there any fines involved? If so-how much?
If Ester Saunoras turns out to be Salzman's cat-who pays?
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