Saturday, November 04, 2006

Conners Goes After Eureka Reporter

Our very own Greg rants on the Eureka Reporter's coverage in his letter to the editor published today. He's not happy with the way they reported on Citizens for Real Economic Growth's fundraising activities.

I tend to think, for the most part, we tend to claim bias in media just because something isn't reported exactly the way we'd like it reported.
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Speaking of bias in the Eureka Reporter, check out their endorsements in today's paper. I guess you'll need to get the hard copy as they only have the top section of that column on their web site.

For those who don't have access to the hard copy, the E/R editorial board, whoever they are, endorsed the following: Wheetley and Stillman for Arcata City Council. Ok, that might be about as right wing as you can get in endorsements for that race.

Lawrence Weisner for State Senate. I guess that would be the right wing pick.

Split, for State Assembly: Two choosing Berg and one opposed to her with no alternate choice mentioned. I'd hardly call that a right wing vote.

Mike Thompson for Congress- another left leaning vote.

Tom McClintock for Lt. Governor. We'll call that a right wing vote.

That's four democrats endorsed and two republicans. Hardly call them a right wing enclave,the folks at Eureka Reporter. I certainly can't imagine Rob or Cherie Arkley voting along those lines.
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Speaking of bias, or irregularities in reporting, I missed this item in this week's North Coast Journal. Only noticed it when I picked up a hard copy while I was at the credit union yesterday.

Marcy Burstiner, professor of journalism at HSU takes a look at differences in reporting on the same issue between reporters from the Eureka Reporter and Times- Standard. I think we could really end up beating ourselves over the head with all this nitpicking, but a look from someone in the industry itself might be of interest.

I'm especially intrigued with Burstiner because she's aware of The Conspiracy, or as she calls it, The Grand Conspiracy, and I thought I was all alone in knowledge of it. I'll be looking forward to reading more of her stuff.

Greg, she's taking requests for news coverage to analyze. You might want to send her an e-mail.

38 Comments:

At 9:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the odds that the ER will endorse someone other than Bass, Leonard, Flemming, Jones, Worford?

 
At 9:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since those ARE the best candidates-why would they endorse any others?

We are pretty sure they won't have any lame excuses like the Times Standard used-for their selections.

 
At 9:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And its Bass, Leonard, Flemming, Jones, Wolford.

 
At 10:04 AM, Blogger Greg said...

Carol and I both originally signed the letter to the ER. They wouldn't use her signature, saying she had already had a letter in the last two weeks.

We have only been getting the ER out here in the country for a few weeks. I complimented Glenn on the photos, and in truth I like a great deal of the reporting. That particular article, unfortunately written by Glenn himself, struck a nerve.

At this stage in elections, DMO sets in: Demonize, Marginalize, Ostracize. Glenn Simmons' reporting may have shown an attempt at appearing fair and balanced, but the very headline gives the game away. No balance there.

 
At 10:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reporter usually isn't the person who writes the headline. Much of what people attribute to bias can easily be explained by incompetence.

 
At 1:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any news on what the killer cop was under the influence of?...other than his own incompetence and stupidity I mean.

 
At 2:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the editor has no control over the headline then there is a problem at the paper.

 
At 2:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At this stage in elections, DMO sets in: Demonize, Marginalize, Ostracize."

So says Greg....and he anc carol should know, as they seem to be doing a lot of this themselves....

 
At 3:07 PM, Blogger Eric V. Kirk said...

Since those ARE the best candidates-why would they endorse any others?

Well, that's one way of looking at it.

 
At 3:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And its Bass, Leonard, Flemming, Jones, Wolford.

Eric you left out the:

We are pretty sure (ER) won't have any lame excuses like the Times Standard used-for their selections.

 
At 3:44 PM, Blogger Greg said...

Greg's List: 13 Lucky Choices - Our Election Poll

 
At 5:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CREG knows to the penny exactly whom has contributed and how much they have contributed.

They won't disclose for obvious reasons.

I can give you 10 reasons:
B-I-L-L P-I-E-R-S-O-N

How 'bout another 13 reasons:
S-T-O-P H-O-M-E D-E-P-O-T

 
At 6:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it's good to know that there are people with absolutely no life! (Carol and Greg) I thought I had no life but compared to some my life is rich.

 
At 7:50 PM, Blogger Carol Ann said...

You may be richer than us, 6:06, but I am pretty happy with my life. We are a little blog happy right now as we just updated from dial-up to satellite internet. The internet is WAY better than before. I love it! Maybe the novelty will wear off, but I like perking up my writing skills. Hey, maybe I'll dust off the guitar and write songs again. Who knows? Have a great weekend.

 
At 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK 5:07, let's dissect your first, of ten, claimed reasons why CREG won't divulge its funding sources. You claim: B.

OK, that makes no sense. You are an idiot.

P.S. BILL PIERSON has 11 letters. Have you graduated third grade yet?

 
At 8:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:07 is Chris Crawford no doubt

 
At 8:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crawford would never post under his own name

Spreads his dirty propaganda on the blogs

 
At 10:28 AM, Anonymous mresquan said...

Why won't the Humboldt Business Council disclose theirs Chris?

 
At 11:02 AM, Blogger Greg said...

Neal Latt did a fine job explaining the situation in today's Eureka Reporter. Does anyone know how we can stop the ER from leaving their droppings on the front porch every morning? The photos are pretty, but the ink gets all over my fingers. Here's a link to Neal's letter:

http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=17096

 
At 12:51 PM, Anonymous mresquan said...

Funny,I used to get annoyed at seeing Tri-City weeklies everywhere,now I don't even notice them in comparison with the amount of waste created by the Eureka Reporter.

 
At 3:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought it was funny that my next door neighbors asked for the Eureka Reporter on three different occasions-by calling the office, and still are not getting delivery.

They aren't the only ones. Because I have written letters to the paper, people I ran into shopping at Costco, asked ME how to get home delivery. I don't know-I don't work there!

 
At 7:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw the ER's council endorsements. Oh yeah, lots of good reasons to vote for the incumbents!

 
At 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny all the Liberals who hate the Reporter, but always find time to not only read the paper, they send their LTE to the Reporter because they know they will actually print their rethoric and hateful spew. Hippy-crets!

 
At 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greg - thanks for posting your list. Now I have a written list of who not to vote for....

And if you think Neal Latt sounded good in his letter, think again. It only convinces me the nuttiest write these letters

 
At 10:07 AM, Blogger Greg said...

9:29,

Thank you for your impeccable logic.

 
At 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are welcome....I am just following the wisdom of Father Doug - or did you miss what he said on the subject?

 
At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the thing, though Greg (and Carol)...and no, I'm not 9:29...

You both are both inconsistent, in several different areas.

First, you both claim to be attacked, even when trying to initiate a reasoned dialogue, yet you are both quick to lable those who disagree with you as "showing their republican skirts" , "neocon", "Rovian" or whatever, so as to depersonalize and diminish. Yet when someone (not myself) calls you smug, self-righteous or something else along those lines, you are soooo quick to trot out the tired "stop picking on my wife" or "I'm being attacked" lines. Yet you and your wife depersonalize with namecalling.

Secondly, with comments along the lines of "the only real poll will be on tuesday" you both display your inconsistency in this way: if (and it's a pretty big if, imo) The incumbent councilpersons and Bass win, I highly doubt you and Carol will stop your efforts at derailing the marina center, and you have both admitted basically as much. If however, the anti-marina slate wins, you will both scream from the rooftops that its over, that the people have spoken.
This is sooooo inconsistent, especially in light of the Fortuna situation mentioned in an earlier thread. One of the big reasons Odell Shelton is no longer on the Fortuna City Council is that he was totally against a big box development in Fortuna, and in fact the three victors in the April election were widely viewed as the pro big box candidates. Furthermore, as was noted in prior posts, the people of Fortuna are overwhelmingly in favor of a big box development. As part of the general plan update the city is going through, surveys and community meetings have borne this out.
Carol, when repeatedly asked about this, finally, responds that she is "not ready to make that decision" - do you see the inconsistency?

Finally, with regards to the various polls pertaining to the proposed balloon track/t development, Greg derides the HBC poll as a "push poll" yet doesnt admit that his own CREG poll was the same kind of push poll; furthermore, the at least the HBC released the full poll and their questions, while Greg, after further querying finally admitted that in fact CREG did not release the full poll, nor all the questions asked (in fact they hardly released any of the questions or results).

In past posts, when I have called greg on this, particularly the whole consistency issue, he's accused me of "rovian" tactics. LOL, Greg, I'm a fellow dem, but like Richard Marks, I am tired of the extremists who have taken over my party

 
At 11:28 AM, Blogger Greg said...

10:32, I don't play peek-a-boo games with anonymous posters, but I am flattered you would take the time to look up quotes.

10:18, I had heard about some comment on KINS about voting the "opposite" from out-of-towners. Knowing Doug, I have to wonder if it was meant in humor. The idea that anyone would vote strictly based on someone else's say-so is absurd.

The way I was brought up, we should vote our own conscience, no matter what anybody else says, no matter where they live. "Vote for the person, not the party!" I was told by both Mom (R) and Dad (D).

Greg's Picks:

Nothing about these numbers should give anyone over-confidence. Mud against the wall. No polls, just my own lottery numbers:

Neely 54, Flemming 46
LaVallee 49, Bass 45, Droz 6
Glass 55, Wolford 40, Wilburn 5
Kuhnel 52, Leonard 48
Abrams 55, Jones 45

 
At 11:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See, Greg again, you prove my point...not playing "peek a boo games", just asking you to address your inconsistencies...

 
At 11:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You actually shouldnt be flattered you should be embarrassed, as your inconsistencies are totally exposed. Fact checking is a good thing, as opposed to name-calling and deflection, something you and carol ann are good at, as evidenced by your many nonresponses.

 
At 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other thing, Greg & Carol Ann, its not really about you per se, as neither of you is interested in true dialogue, as evidenced by prior posts; rather, it's to illustrate to everyone else here who reads these blogs how inconsistent you both are.

 
At 1:35 PM, Blogger Greg said...

Okay, okay, I'm inconsistent...

I think.

 
At 1:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:32 - You're only partly right about the HBC releasing their poll results. They asked over 3 dozen questions, yet only released 6 questions and those answers. Clearly, they don't want us to see the rest.

Fortuna's "surveys and community meetings have borne this out." is clearly in favor of having big boxes built and that's a great place for them. Eureka's citizens have consistently said that we want new businesses without more big boxes. So why does Arkley's team keep pushing a big box?

So, either their poll showed that we still don't want a big box, or they don't want to release information that supports their stand on big box. How likely is that??

And, you keep forgetting that up here, unlike in Fortuna, there is a lot more at stake in this election than further big box development. If we get new councilmembers the Balloon Tract will still be developed, but it may not have a big box by the time they break ground. Home Depot can still build on plenty of other parcels. And that will be ok.

 
At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh BS 1:45. It'll just mean another rallying cry to get people foaming at the mouth.

 
At 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

So glad you used your brain before your fingers started typing. This definitely moves the conversation forward.

 
At 8:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:32 - you are right on the mark with Greg. Thank you!

9:20 - also a fellow dem who is sick and tired of the Gregs and Carols who have hijacked the central committee in this county!

 
At 9:15 AM, Blogger Carol Ann said...

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At 2:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee Carol Ann - cat got your tongue...how come you deleted your post, did 9:29, 10:32 and 8:22 fubar you and Greg?

 

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