Sunday, August 07, 2016


The Times- Standard reports the movie Vaxxed will be showing here in Eureka. It purports to show fraudulent research by the Center for Disease Control in regards the safety of vaccines. Anybody going to watch it? I'm not.

Not that my mind's made up, although I've had just about all the vaccines as a kid with no ill effect. I have no problem believing fraudulent research by the CDC, though, especially since their fraudulent research regarding e- cigarettes and vaping came to light. Go see Dr. Siegel's blog for more on that. After following his blog for a while, I'm skeptical of any "research" that comes out of government run labs.


At 10:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm skeptical of any "research" that comes out of government run labs."

Only trust research done by impartial tobacco oil and pharmaceutical companies.

Seriously, has it ever occurred to you that the problem with "government research" is that, too often, it has been compromised by special interest infiltration and bias?

At 1:42 PM, Blogger Bob Wallace said...

I took a look at Siegle's blog and the article that he links to as support.

I see no fraudulent research there. All I see is a statement is that there is not adequate research to date.

I am very surprised by Siegle's complaint. As someone who "is a Professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences... has 25 years of experience in the field of tobacco control...conducted research on secondhand smoke and cigarette advertising... has published nearly 70 papers related to tobacco" he knows that anecdotal evidence is not scientific proof.

Anecdotal evidence provides a hint that there may be something worth researching, but gathering personal experiences without proper controls is not sufficient to establish causation.

"After following his blog for a while, I'm skeptical of any "research" that comes out of government run labs."

A certain amount of skepticism about any specific piece of research is justified. There is always a chance of error, intended or unintended.

Best to look for all the research done on a topic and see if you find agreement. Good scientists know that.

As for the trustworthiness of research done in government labs, as yourself why scientists in any lab might be willing to destroy their reputation by intentionally publishing inaccurate findings.

Researchers working for a specific company may find a need to either published erroneous findings. Or, at least, bury findings that are inconvenient for their employer.

It's hard to see how the same conditions would exist in government labs. Do you really think Mitch McConnell controls government labs and tells them what to publish?

At 8:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would never trust them either Fred.
The regulatory labs are hired to find reasons to regulate. They do not search for, or list, reasons why they should not be regulated. In fact, companies are not allowed to list benefits of their products, because the regulatory labs and agencies do not handle the benefits.
Vitamins, nuts, fruits, vegetables, everything good for us, can no longer advertise their beneficial ingredients.
Meat is the new bad guy.. The UN demands we tax it. It causes weight gain. The weight gained is healthy muscle, but muscle is a benefit.
I haven't seen vaxxed yet, but I trust those in the know who have.


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